According to the JWs, in Paradise Erf, we will all be perfect, always smiling, and petting lions. What other fables have you heard about Paradise besides petting the damn lions?
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Paradise Erf Fables
by Nosferatu inaccording to the jws, in paradise erf, we will all be perfect, always smiling, and petting lions.
what other fables have you heard about paradise besides petting the damn lions?
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I RAISED A FLAG TODAY!
by plmkrzy ini'm in trouble now.. actually it is one of those windcatchers.
they usually come in fish, but i went to the local flag shop in san pedro and bought one in the ol' stars and stripes and hung it off the balcony this morning.
i didn't salute it, i just hung it.
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Do you all remember that picture of Jehovah in the Revelation book? What would happen if you took that picture, put it on a flag, and raised it outside your home? Could you be disfellowshipped for that? Or would you just be charged for copyright infringement?
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Mentally Preparing Myself for my Father's Sudden Death
by Nosferatu ini figured i'd share this story with you people, and it's ongoing.
when i was 19 years old, i had a girlfriend.
she was extremely helpful, encouraging me to stand up to the elders who were coming to talk to me about my meeting attendance, and my lack of field service reports.
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"They had keys to our house and our car. Our house wasn't even in our name for years. He'd just walk in whenever he felt like it and start crabbing at hubby to "get out and get to work" - even when we were in bed!"
Yeah, I had that with my first car. My dad told me that it would be a good idea to put it in his name, because the insurance would be cheaper. Then he'd go out - in MY car, and leave me his piece of crap to drive. Whenever I didn't do as I was told, he threatened to take the car away (not like I had much freedom to use it anyway). After I crashed the car, He told me "See, I told you not to go driving all over the place!" Apparently, all over the place was anywhere further than the driveway; I crashed it a block from the house.
I still say to this day, I'm much happier to have my ex still cosigned on my current vehicle rather than my dad. I can trust her more.
Another thing that worries me - I will not be able to take everything when I move out. A few things will have to be either left behind, or put into storage. I'd prefer the ladder.
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Mentally Preparing Myself for my Father's Sudden Death
by Nosferatu ini figured i'd share this story with you people, and it's ongoing.
when i was 19 years old, i had a girlfriend.
she was extremely helpful, encouraging me to stand up to the elders who were coming to talk to me about my meeting attendance, and my lack of field service reports.
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Cruzanheart- I can see what you're saying. I know there's nothing unusual about a child growing up, moving out, and getting married. I know that I'm not causing his death, he's doing it all on his own. He's the one who want to control every move I make, and it's not working. It's causing him to stress out. After I moved out the first time, people including me noticed how much he had aged. The stress combined with his health is going to take a toll on him. The difference is this time there is a definate committment between me and my fiance, therefore his hope of me returning home has lowered. I really do wish he was happy for me like my mother is.
Francois- I do question the result of him being at my wedding, and you may have led me to a decision. However, if I don't invite him to come, he'll be hanging that over my head for the rest of his life. This will just create more problems from him to deal with. However, if I give him an invitation and leave it at just that - an invitation, chances are his shitty attitude will cause him not to show up. In other words, don't encourage him to come, but don't discourage him from coming.
Also, I've invited my dad's daughter from his previous marriage (my half sister). My dad hasn't seen her since 1987. My half-sister has told me that my dad sent her a letter many years ago, stating he's disowned her. There's more to this one - My dad's ex-wife married his brother, and raised my dad's daughter since she was 4 years old. I have absolutely no clue what effect me getting married, and my half sister attending is going to have on him.
Worldlygirl- I agree with you. My father has lost control of me ever since I was 19. The thing is, he still tries to do it no matter how many times he fails. Our relationship hasn't been the same since before I moved out the first time (I'm 25 now). For the longest time, I failed to see how he was controlling me. I truly don't care if I don't inherit the house, or if I never speak to him again. It's amazing, when you move out, you see who your parents really are. I've noticed that they're not very nice people, and if they weren't my parents, I wouldn't want anything to do with them. When I was living on my own, I couldn't stand visiting them.
The next year or so is going to be challenging, yet interesting. However, my dad's attitude does have an effect on me, not matter how strong I am. You cannot get hit without getting bruised.
Asleif- My dad's got no money either. He's a compulsive gambler.
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Mentally Preparing Myself for my Father's Sudden Death
by Nosferatu ini figured i'd share this story with you people, and it's ongoing.
when i was 19 years old, i had a girlfriend.
she was extremely helpful, encouraging me to stand up to the elders who were coming to talk to me about my meeting attendance, and my lack of field service reports.
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I figured I'd share this story with you people, and it's ongoing. When I was 19 years old, I had a girlfriend. She was extremely helpful, encouraging me to stand up to the elders who were coming to talk to me about my meeting attendance, and my lack of field service reports. Needless to say, I told them I was no longer interested. I remember being told that I was going to be toast at armageddon, and the other elder looked as if he was going to cry. My girlfriend was very supportive. But that's not the point.
When I started visiting her often, and sleeping over at her place, my father (non-JW) started getting angry with me, and tried to stop me from visiting her. He came up with a curfew for me - be in at 8:30 weekdays, and midnight on weekends - and here I am on the verge of turning 20 and paying rent at home. This of course drove me further away, and had really started to get the best of me. My girlfriend's father asked if I would like to move in, and I accepted. Why pay rent with no freedom, when I could live somewhere else and pay rent with freedom!
My father was incredibly offended that I would rather live with a "welfare bum" than live at home. I tried picking up my guitar amp from my house one day, and my father wouldn't let me take it. He told me "Who paid for that amp?" I know damn well I did, and I told him. He refused to accept my answer, and continued to tell me how he paid for it. Eventually, I was able to take it. Another problem was with the drum set I owned. I didn't have room for it when I moved out, so I left it behind. My dad called me up telling me to get it out of the house. I called a friend and asked if he could hold onto it for me. He picked it up, and I never saw the drum set again.
Me and my dad ended up not talking for about a year and a half. I was fed up with all the crap. He had told me that someone at work knew my girlfriend, and told him how much of a bitch she was. He told me that I was no longer inheriting the house when he passed on. I also discovered he was getting printouts of my bank account, and using them to rub in the fact that since I left home I had no money. He had also told that I would no longer be able to buy myself a vehicle - but I did.
Fast foreward 4 years. We began communicating again, my girlfriend left me, I had moved 2 times. I was living with a friend when he screwed me around. My parents lived just across the street, so as a last resort to get out of the bad situation I was in, I asked if I could temporarily move in. They allowed me.
I have been there for a little over a year, working on saving money to buy a house, as well as pay off some of my debts. In this time, I met my a girl, and we are now engaged with wedding plans in the making. We plan on moving in together soon. My dad is turning back into a nervous wreck. He has now told me that I won't be able to buy a house. He's trying to tell me where to live (again), and is telling me how I should have my wedding. Ever since the engagement, he's been complaining about his stomach hurting, and has had problems wetting the bed.
My mother (JW) is extremely exited about the wedding, and is doing the food for it. However, she's a bit worried about the situation with my dad. She is worried that my dad will not drive her with the food to the reception. She's also wondering if my dad is going to the wedding, and she's worried that he'll try stopping her from going. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if my dad dies of a heart attack before the wedding (he smokes and is in his late 50s)
I have to say that I really don't need this shit happening. I have no choice but to deal with it. I know I need support with this whole situation. There's a lot more to the situation, but it would take a long time to type it all out. Any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated.
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I RAISED A FLAG TODAY!
by plmkrzy ini'm in trouble now.. actually it is one of those windcatchers.
they usually come in fish, but i went to the local flag shop in san pedro and bought one in the ol' stars and stripes and hung it off the balcony this morning.
i didn't salute it, i just hung it.
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I hope you know that you will not be able to take that flag with you into Paradise Erf
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What Did You "Become" After Leaving The Watchtower?
by SpannerintheWorks in.
born again, liberal christian, agnostic, atheist, or "other"?.
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your catch phrase
by SpiceItUp inso i'm sitting here at work and it just dawned on me that i use the same phrase over and over subconsciously.
in my job i have lots of people that thank me on the phone and for some reason instead of saying "your welcome" (which i do use occasionally) i say "not a problem" or "no problem".. what is your little catch phrase that you subconsciously use?.
spice of the fluffy friday class
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I have quite a few, and I love them all. I say "Lotsa fun!" a lot.
When I'm getting ready to leave, I usually say, "Well, I should make like a tree and f*ck off".
I call food "chow"
I call bad drivers "Hoopy Bastards" and "Stupid Eggs"
All in all, I'd say my language is quite colorful.
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What are you doing for the Victoria Day / Memorial Day Weekend ?
by xjw_b12 inwe canadians get a jump on the first long weekend of the season, over our american neighbours, who have to wait another week before the memorial day weekend ( see there it is again, that term "american").
i was curious as to who has made plans for the victoria day long weekend, and what you are doing ?
cj and i are hitching up the trailer, and going to one our favourite camping spots, on the pennisula of lake superior, known as sleeping giant provincial park.
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Nothing incredibly huge this weekend. There's a Karaoke contest at a local legion that I plan on winning (or at least trying to). I should make a phone call demanding me and my fiance's rings. I have a visa bill to pay. Me and my fiance will indulge ourselves in premarital sex. Got a barbeque to attend on Saturday. Oh yeah, and I'm gonna sleep in!
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newbie
by Freedomrules ini'm just trying to figure this site out.
i'm inactive jw for 8 years.
my whole family is jw.
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Welcome aboard! You'll feel right at home here. When I was younger, the internet and message boards like this didn't exist, and only recently have I found myself dealing with my issues with the Watchtower. The farthest I got was Unbaptized Publisher. I'm glad I was never baptized, because I can still talk to JWs whenever I run into them. Glad to hear you married someone worldly!