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  The 1006 list is on the Royal Commission Website!!!!

  by Petraglyph in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it seems they do have a database!

  !you can view it here on the royal commission website:.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

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  fastJehu,

  Thanks for the direct link.
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  The 1006 list is on the Royal Commission Website!!!!

  by Petraglyph in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it seems they do have a database!

  !you can view it here on the royal commission website:.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

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  First, Petraglyph, thanks for the information. It is very informative.

  Those who respond, please try to be objective when you look at the breakdown of the chart provided by the Watchtower of the 1006 cases dating back to 1950.

  Link to document (if the insert is difficult to read, go to the link and view the pdf; document is near the bottom):

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney

  Re: Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse (“Commission”) – Analysis Summary – Comments and Verification

  
  

  
  
  
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  Those aussie elders may escape repercussions after all....RC day 3

  by Witness My Fury in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  damn those tricky state laws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmeg1omfumk 15:30 on.

  annoying no?.

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  Let me say from the start, child abuse is a heinous Crime. Anyone that would physically or sexually abuse a child, should be "PUT UNDER THE JAIL."

  Now, there are possibly thousands of you on this forum; some of you are from Australia. What if the Royal Commission had the "Teeth" to prosecute those whose names appear on the list of 1006 cases; dating back to 1950. It is possible that some of you on this forum would either recognize some of the names on the list, your name may be listed, or someone in your family. Or, ones who were just teenagers at the time, messing around, etc.

  Will it cause some to look over their shoulder?

  I hope this issue will be resolved and children will be protected now and into the future.
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  GB Permits Texas Two-Step on Kingdom Hall Stage, etc.

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.

  but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.

  the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.

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  For those who were not able to access the video of the brothers performing the Texas Two-Step on the Kingdom Hall stage, below are two screen shots from the video:
  

  http://rutube.ru/video/6087817e25458c204428b5bcbf02d5b7/

  
  
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  GB Permits Texas Two-Step on Kingdom Hall Stage, etc.

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.

  but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.

  the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.

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  If anyone knows how to upload the video of the brothers doing the Texas two-step on the kingdom hall stage to this forum for Village Idiot and others, I'd appreciate it (if it is allowed). Thanks. http://rutube.ru/video/6087817e25458c204428b5bcbf02d5b7/

  I could not locate a copy of it on youtube.
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  GB Permits Texas Two-Step on Kingdom Hall Stage, etc.

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.

  but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.

  the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.

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  The Governing Body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1

  But, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the Congregations. The Governing Body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the Kingdom Halls and during the Conventions. There is a video of the brothers doing the Texas two-step on the Kingdom Hall stage; while the sisters are whooping, as if they were watching the Chippendales.

  http://rutube.ru/video/6087817e25458c204428b5bcbf02d5b7/

  There is also a video of bethelites performing to the song, Happy, by Pharell Williams in Bethel itself. They called it family night. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je6_855Ucac

  These are just a few of the examples. But, the Governing Body (faithful slave?); the ones taking the lead; they are permitting these activities?

  This is beyond belief!
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  GB Not Providing Food-Helpers Write Articles

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why does the governing body depend on the helpers to write watchtower articles and the information in other publications?

  why does the governing body not write these articles themselves?

  they depend on the helpers to compose/write this information.

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  Compound Complex - your comments were informative. Thank you.
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  GB Not Providing Food-Helpers Write Articles

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
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  why does the governing body depend on the helpers to write watchtower articles and the information in other publications?

  why does the governing body not write these articles themselves?

  they depend on the helpers to compose/write this information.

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  Iown Mylife

  Thanks for the laugh Marina.
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  GB Not Providing Food-Helpers Write Articles

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why does the governing body depend on the helpers to write watchtower articles and the information in other publications?

  why does the governing body not write these articles themselves?

  they depend on the helpers to compose/write this information.

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  There were, of course, articles that did come through from "anointed" brothers in different countries. [footnote #37: In almost all cases the article came because President Knorr had sent an assignment to the person to write it.] These, however, were subject to review, revision and even total rewriting according to the discretion of the Writing Department overseer, Karl Adams. Yet Karl himself was not of the "anointed." He felt no hesitance in turning over an article written by one of the "anointed" to one of the "other sheep" for reworking or rewriting, and frequently did so. No one of his superiors had any objection to his doing so.
  

  The sole exception to this rule were the writings prepared by the vice president, Fred Franz. As Karl stated to me, Knorr had made clear that the vice president's writings were to be altered only with the vice president's permission.

  In one Governing Body meeting when this subject of preparation of "spiritual food" came up, President Knorr spontaneously acknowledged that the great bulk of the writing was done by those of the "other sheep" class. To any one writing in the Writing Department this was obvious. Though the Writing Department has since been greatly expanded, the situation remains essentially the same. [footnote # 38: The writing staff in recent years numbers 20 or more persons in all, the great majority professing to be of the "other sheep."]

  The reason generally given to explain away this anomaly is that, even though the non-anointed members do the thinking, development and writing of the material, it is always read and approved by persons of the "anointed" before printing. Evidently this somehow adds an anointed touch or quality to the material. [footnote # 39: Compare Haggai 2:11, 12.] The very fact that such reasoning must be resorted to of itself shows the strained nature of the claim made as to the application of the food-supplying aspect of Jesus' parable.

  IN SEARCH OF CHRISTIAN FREEDOM, pages 154, 155.

  Who Actually Supplies the "Food"?

  Yes, the explanation for allowing non-anointed ones to actually do, "the thinking, development and writing of the material," is an anomaly in light of the scripture regarding the faithful slave.

  "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his

  Master appointed over his domestics, to give them

  their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if

  his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say

  to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.—

  Matthew 24:45-47."

  How can the Governing Body (the faithful slave?) ever be pronounced happy upon the master's arrival? They are not actually providing the food. They are not, "doing so." Someone else is "doing" the writing for them; mostly, if not all, non-anointed helpers.
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  GB Not Providing Food-Helpers Write Articles

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why does the governing body depend on the helpers to write watchtower articles and the information in other publications?

  why does the governing body not write these articles themselves?

  they depend on the helpers to compose/write this information.

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  Brothers we don't need no stinking GB to write those articles it's in good hands: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/89486/franz-knorr-state-court-that-jehovah-editor-watchtower?page=1&size=10
  

  in a 1943 court case, then Watchtower Vice-President Frederick Franz was asked the following:

  Q: At any rate, Jehovah God is now the editor of the paper [Watchtower magazine], is that right?

  Franz: He is today the editor of the paper.

  Q: How long has He been editor of the paper?

  Franz: Since its inception He has been guiding it.

  Later, in the same court case, then Watchtower President Nathan Knorr was asked about the importance of the Watchtower magazine:

  Q: In fact, it [Watchtower magazine] is set forth as God’s word, isn’t it?

  Knorr: Yes, as His word.

  Q: Without any qualification whatsoever?

  Knorr: That is right.

  Very interesting. Thanks for the link.