Thanks jgnat for the help. I will print this out and try to memorize these. I've tried to get them interested in doing some of the things I do, but to no avail. I will try some of the other things.
Capp
hi everyone, i've been reading on this board for some time now because i have some childhood friends that are in this organization, and would like to find out a way i could help them to some how see it for what it really is.
i'm not a jw nor have i ever been.
i truly feel for some of the hurts you all have been through.
Thanks jgnat for the help. I will print this out and try to memorize these. I've tried to get them interested in doing some of the things I do, but to no avail. I will try some of the other things.
Capp
last week my niece died in a car crash.
she was only 18 years old.
i haven't seen her since she was 10. i missed her all that time.
Dear Duckling, No matter what anyone says it's perfectly alright and very very normal for you to grieve. I read your story on the Sheep and it touched my heart, how true and painful this is for you. I can't imagine what pain you are going through. Remember Jesus loves you and he is the shelter in the time of storm, let him help you if you can. And always remember that the ugly duckling turned into a beautiful swan. I'm praying for you.
Capp
i think that i read somewhere that jws believe that the magi who followed the star were 'evil' .
is that the case - if so how did they figure that?
paduan
Where does it say that Jesus was 2 years old when this happened? I don't believe I've ever read that?
Capp
do you know why the society says this?
regardless of whether the meeting is for the purpose of shepherding, sharing bible advice,or simply giving encouragement, "she could develop romantic feelings for the elder.it is possible for an elder to develop improper feelings for a sister he is comforting or counseling.
it is especially important never to meet with a sister alone when the sister being assisted has been a victim of abuse, suffers from depression,or for any other reason is in a delicate emotional state.a woman in such an emotional may be more vulnerable and may be prone to develop improper feelings toward an elder meeting with her.
That's a good rule for someone who is doing the right thing, and in a careing way, to many times a person's testimony or good standing with the people he is acquainted with is blown to pieces doing just this. But from what I've read on this forum, these people do it to cover up there rumplestiltkins. I wouldn't want to be in a room alone with 5 let alone 1.
Capp
it's been over between us for months now, didn't end very good either.
i do regret hurting him like i did, but at the time, i needed to be free of him and any/all dubs.
i've finally moved on w/ my life, i have a wonderful new man in my life--who treats me like a princess--and i feel lucky to be w/ him.
Hey there Butal, are you sure there isn't some guilt mixed in there with what you are calling jealousy? It sounds to me quite like the shunning I've been reading about on this forum. He is shunning you and you are feeling guilty for it maybe. If I were you I'd say I'm sorry to this man friend you have and let it come directly from your heart, and then let it be. If he is really attracted to you he'll be back, and be thankfull you are away from all this nonsense the JW's put out. You and your family in later life will thank you for you decision to not get invoved with a dub. Hope this helps in someway, it's not meant to harm you in anyway. Take care.
Capp
hi everyone, i've been reading on this board for some time now because i have some childhood friends that are in this organization, and would like to find out a way i could help them to some how see it for what it really is.
i'm not a jw nor have i ever been.
i truly feel for some of the hurts you all have been through.
Thanks Beans, but I have already been on this site. I havn't near read it all but what I have read is so overwhelming. Does anybody have any advice on how I should approach this? It is going to be so hard to convince these people about the borg and still remain close friends. I thought about the idea I read on someone else's thread about mailing some things to them, but I don't know. HELP
Capp
hi everyone, i've been reading on this board for some time now because i have some childhood friends that are in this organization, and would like to find out a way i could help them to some how see it for what it really is.
i'm not a jw nor have i ever been.
i truly feel for some of the hurts you all have been through.
Thanks Double Edge. I will jump in soon enough. I sure don't want to get started off on the wrong foot. I am getting educated very fast and as you have said it is really bump, and scary. IT's hard to believe that anyone would let people rule them this way. IT's a crazy world, huh.
Capp
i have spent the last week or so with my sister and bro-in-law and my 6year old niece, all jws.
they live in a town not too far away from me, and i visit them every couple of months or so.
my sister and i are close, not extremely so, but we appreciate each other as we have no other bros & sisters, our mother died 21yrs ago, and our father treats us as though we are dead too (due to non-jw issues).. last time i went to visit them, my bro-in-law asked my niece to ask me if i'd go to the meeting.
I liked that part of "Only believe what the Bible says" You hang in there!! I agree fully!!!!!!!
Capp
hi everyone, i've been reading on this board for some time now because i have some childhood friends that are in this organization, and would like to find out a way i could help them to some how see it for what it really is.
i'm not a jw nor have i ever been.
i truly feel for some of the hurts you all have been through.
Thanks everybody for the welcome. I do have a lot of questions for you ex JW. I wasn't aware of all the False Proph's that they had done back in the 1800's and early 1900's. I didn't get to be friends with these people until about 1967. I never ever heard them talk about 1975. So finding that out was amazing to me, that how could anybody with any sense at all, be led astray by this doctrine. As we all grew older, and each one of us got married and went about our daily lives we still remained good friends, but I did notice a difference. Like they wouldn't come into my home or now there children won't either. My son and there son's ride 4 wheelers together, but they won't come into my home and sit down. I find that a little funny, as I have never said anything about there beliefs YET. It makes me feel like I'm some kind of enemy. But if you catch them out somewhere you couln't ask for better fellowship. It's really strange. Then there is this couple that helped raise me when my mother took off and left me and my brother with our Dad. He moved us back to where he was raised and she was very kind to me and my brother. We always respected her a great deal. Then when I had kids of my own, they called her Granny. She was later turned out of the KH because of smoking, and she never ever tried to get us to go to the KH or even be a JW. 30 years later her husband, we call him Papaw, past away a few months ago and he wasn't a JW, but she got one of the KH to people to speak at his funeral. She ask me what I thought of that and I told I wished she wouldn't be cause I know for a fact papaw didn't believe like she did. He only went along with all mumbo jumbo to get along with everybody. Well she did anyway, and after the the funeral she ask me what I thought of the way it was handled and I tried to be polite, by saying "Granny now isn't the time to talk about this, maybe in a few months we can," but she would not have it until I told her what I thought. Needless to say she didn't agree or like what I said and I really tried to be kind, and brief. That's when I decided to try to find out all I could so I could try to help these poor people. You all have made me more smarter about my cause. I will go very slow like one of you said. And I thank you for helping me. These are truly good people, just lead astray by what the Bible calls "a doctrine of devils." Thanks again for listening.
Capp
hi everyone, i've been reading on this board for some time now because i have some childhood friends that are in this organization, and would like to find out a way i could help them to some how see it for what it really is.
i'm not a jw nor have i ever been.
i truly feel for some of the hurts you all have been through.
Hi everyone, I've been reading on this board for some time now because I have some childhood friends that are in this organization, and would like to find out a way I could help them to some how see it for what it really is. I'm not a JW nor have I ever been. I truly feel for some of the hurts you all have been through. I also hope not being a ex JW, that I can be on this board as well. I truly believe in what the good book says about "Loving your neighbor as you love yourself" so I'm saying HI to everyone on here.
Capp