Posts by Thoughtless

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For those who are still IN and attending meetings, do you still study the WT & other books?

by ohnightdivine in

for those of you who are still attending meetings due to various reasons, how do you prepare yourself for each program?.

do you still read and study the wt?.

do you still read and study the okm, jeremiah, etc?.

Thoughtless

I was EXTREMELY studious when I was younger. Now that I know its all lies, I don't do it anymore. Not at all. God, I thought I was the only one who wondered this.

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The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.

on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?

not exactly working out for you guys.

Thoughtless

Suraj Khan, I know your counsel wasn't for me specifically, but that is the most encouraging thing I have ever read. I really appreciated your comment. You have a PM.

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What's with all the JWs unleashing the hate!?

by Julia Orwell in

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most of us here on jwn, while we can get a bit narky at times, can put forth intelligent arguments and sound observations.

sure we can get bogged down with our opinions, but generally we back up our opinions with examples and evidence, and if someone has a different opinion with examples and evidence, we accept that without recriminations.

that's what adults do.. so my question is, why in the last week or so, have a couple of posters claiming to be jws come onto this forum and berated, spewed hate and judgement, and in some cases verbally attacked members personally?

Thoughtless

SFBW, I can respect your stance on not answer a PM, but it is contradictory. Its a "sin" to communicate with an apostate in public place, and still a "sin" to communicate with one in a car, it has equal bearing. I am still in, and regardless if I finally break free, I think the hate on both sides is insane and while justified, unneeded for productive discussion. You said, " The Slave makes suggestion, and you swear it was a commandment from God Himself", but you rather purposely (troll) or subconsciously deified the slave by capitalizing it's position making it on equal standing with God. Also, it's more than a "suggestion" its dogma in which one could be expelled from his family and force a paradigm shift that is unnatural and inhumane that a lot of humans may not be able to handle. The bible says that God's true followers can be distinguished by their love, but even the World who is so debauched and horrible can see the "provision" as unloving.

I honestly want to believe this is pure worship. I want to sleep at night and know that I am doing the right thing, but I know I am not by what I have learned about this Organization (I capitalized this because I respect it's power, but not it's authority). The UN affair really got me, but the Malawi scandal tied the knot. I don't believe you are as honest hearted as you make yourself seem. I believe that you are either a troll or a moron. I tend to give a listening ear to JW apologists because it gives me faith in a lie I want to believe. It gives a differing perspective, but just somethings are undeniable.

I could be totally wrong in your motives, and I understand it is not in my place to judge them, but if you are "trolling" it is best that you do not attend this website because this forum has cathartic properties for many living in a world of irrationality as myself. If you are sincere and I am totally wrong, my apologies. If you are trolling, please leave.

~Thoughtless

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So, the (N)NWT is gray in color?

by undercover in

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so after the annual meeting, on sunday, the elders want to talk with my family.

i do not like this one bit.

perhaps i am being exposed.

Thoughtless

So after the annual meeting, on Sunday, the elders want to talk with my family. I do not like this one bit. Perhaps I am being exposed. I am over 18 so if I think it is apostasy, they would talk to me privately, despite me being in my mother's home. I am really freaking nervous and I do not know what to think. WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO TALK TO MY WHOLE FAMILY? Encouragement? Maybe, but they asked me to be there specifically (despite me not really having a "role" in the family, I just kind of live there). Consolation? Advice?

~Thoughtless

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Well I gotta go......

by punkofnice in

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...i might drop in every now and then but i hope you all enjoy life, escape the watchtower(r) and live prosperous lives.. i can't say i contribute much here anyway (and i'm not attention seeking).. i'm just going to get on with life away from the constant reminder of the mistakes i made being a jw zombie drone.. i guess i'm just going to fade.......rather quickly.. of course i didn't need to make any posts here to disappear but i thought it'd be polite and very british to bid you all a fond farewell.. see you all sometime.....maybe.....maybe not.....maybe....... bye!.

ps.

don't pm me as i won't be checking the pms.. .

Thoughtless

DUDE, STAY STRONG. FIGHT THE FINE FIGHT!