I've met plenty of atheists around here, and a good number of my friends are atheists. It's fine, I have always been tolerant of other religions even in the deepest point of devotion as a JW. I guess I was always a moral relativist, so that helped out a lot.
Thoughtless
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Do you recall your first encounter with a atheist? What was your thought?
by jam ingrowing up in the south everyone i knew believed in god, even the.
town drunk.
i remember watching some special tv program around xmas .
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I am giving a Public Talk
by cantleave inin milan .
http://www.making-cosmetics.it/speaker/mr-angus-robertson/#.umkyqi9ai1q.facebook.
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Thoughtless
Grats'! I am going to send you a PM.
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I am giving a Public Talk
by cantleave inin milan .
http://www.making-cosmetics.it/speaker/mr-angus-robertson/#.umkyqi9ai1q.facebook.
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Cant Leave, just out of curiosity, are you still in the bOrg or are you out?
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LURKERS, FENCE-SITTING JW'S and FADERS, here is your LIST
by Terry in1.you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. look at how you are feeling most of the time.
that sense of going nowhere and feeling down is not because you aren't spritual enough.
it is because you are filling your life with empty purpose brought to you courtesy of the watch tower bible and tract society!.
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I appreciate this a lot Terry. It's time for me to change my life.
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Can the jw organization be reformed?
by wannaexit ini know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
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I honestly believe so. It will cause such a paradigm shift that it may be counterproductive.
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Why do you still go to meetings?
by Aroq ini'm asking this because there are a few on this site who do not agree with the wt or gb, but yet still go to meetings.. .
why?.
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For family. I am thinking of leaving soon. Like, very very soon.
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For those who are still IN and attending meetings, do you still study the WT & other books?
by ohnightdivine infor those of you who are still attending meetings due to various reasons, how do you prepare yourself for each program?.
do you still read and study the wt?.
do you still read and study the okm, jeremiah, etc?.
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I was EXTREMELY studious when I was younger. Now that I know its all lies, I don't do it anymore. Not at all. God, I thought I was the only one who wondered this.
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The reason behind why the ex-JW community can never match Jehovah's Witnesses' success.
by Stand for Pure Worship inan average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
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Thoughtless
Suraj Khan, I know your counsel wasn't for me specifically, but that is the most encouraging thing I have ever read. I really appreciated your comment. You have a PM.
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What's with all the JWs unleashing the hate!?
by Julia Orwell inmost of us here on jwn, while we can get a bit narky at times, can put forth intelligent arguments and sound observations.
sure we can get bogged down with our opinions, but generally we back up our opinions with examples and evidence, and if someone has a different opinion with examples and evidence, we accept that without recriminations.
that's what adults do.. so my question is, why in the last week or so, have a couple of posters claiming to be jws come onto this forum and berated, spewed hate and judgement, and in some cases verbally attacked members personally?
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SFBW, I can respect your stance on not answer a PM, but it is contradictory. Its a "sin" to communicate with an apostate in public place, and still a "sin" to communicate with one in a car, it has equal bearing. I am still in, and regardless if I finally break free, I think the hate on both sides is insane and while justified, unneeded for productive discussion. You said, " The Slave makes suggestion, and you swear it was a commandment from God Himself", but you rather purposely (troll) or subconsciously deified the slave by capitalizing it's position making it on equal standing with God. Also, it's more than a "suggestion" its dogma in which one could be expelled from his family and force a paradigm shift that is unnatural and inhumane that a lot of humans may not be able to handle. The bible says that God's true followers can be distinguished by their love, but even the World who is so debauched and horrible can see the "provision" as unloving.
I honestly want to believe this is pure worship. I want to sleep at night and know that I am doing the right thing, but I know I am not by what I have learned about this Organization (I capitalized this because I respect it's power, but not it's authority). The UN affair really got me, but the Malawi scandal tied the knot. I don't believe you are as honest hearted as you make yourself seem. I believe that you are either a troll or a moron. I tend to give a listening ear to JW apologists because it gives me faith in a lie I want to believe. It gives a differing perspective, but just somethings are undeniable.
I could be totally wrong in your motives, and I understand it is not in my place to judge them, but if you are "trolling" it is best that you do not attend this website because this forum has cathartic properties for many living in a world of irrationality as myself. If you are sincere and I am totally wrong, my apologies. If you are trolling, please leave.
~Thoughtless
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So, the (N)NWT is gray in color?
by undercover inokay, perusing the threads about the special meeting and new bible, i see that the new bible is gray.. gray?
gray?
as in - dull?
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Yeah, I think it is used to give "distinction" to JW's (It seems that its kind of "hipster-esque" to try to make one stand out). I really do like the new Bible translation, imo EXCEPT for a couple of changes sneakily added in. But it is all the plasticity of language that is the ultimate downfall.