Dragon, You are right there and as most people I get involved more with what effects me or my family personnally..And I am doing what I can from my end here just not on the silent lamb scale..At this time I am more of a coward and want go public because of my family and not wanting to lose them at this time..
Rogue_Protecter
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What's with the media and the march
by Lady Lee inwhere are the reports.
what exactly happened when the media went into the doos of bethel.
were they threatened.
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What's with the media and the march
by Lady Lee inwhere are the reports.
what exactly happened when the media went into the doos of bethel.
were they threatened.
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And I suppose you have first hand knowledge here...get ya head outta the sand..You read about that stuff happening it does happen....just because it is diff doesnt mean its never took place....I do not know the woman..just like I dont know you..everything here should be taken with a grain of salt until proven in court..These mean let there followers die.....why is it so hard to believe that they would do that?..
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What's with the media and the march
by Lady Lee inwhere are the reports.
what exactly happened when the media went into the doos of bethel.
were they threatened.
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You are right I dont ...so I went back and read a few of your post trying to get a feel for what you went thru or are going thru..well I got thru about half of them before stopping...Boy did i step in it..Theres a nice pattern you have going you bait people into heated disputes...have to admit you are quite good..cause I am still going to bite....u use good bait
I am not your friend
And how has Mr.Bowen acted that has hurt you so much..No one asked you to be involved..You are right i dont know you or ya circumstances .. And with this piss poor attitude I cant really see why I would want too..The silent lambs are trying to do something not everyone may do the proper thing because they let there emotions get the best of them at times..Thats human..You may choose not to hate that is fine that is your choice..diff strokes diff folks..maybe what keeps him focused ..maybe you read it diff than what he feels..maybe his ideas are diff than yours..we are all human and do things different..
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What's with the media and the march
by Lady Lee inwhere are the reports.
what exactly happened when the media went into the doos of bethel.
were they threatened.
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Kelsey ..You are right there are alot of problems and maybe more fantical than Jw's .But this one hits some of us on a personnel level.And thats not to belittle others plight in life.These men are criminals and they pull the wool over peoples eyes with there twisted talk.and until we let them see the man behind the curtain they will stay there.I have family still in and I am also 3rd generation and I want them to open there eyes .And you know as well as I do how they hate bad press.If Bill is putting the pressure on and the press covers it,it just may give him a lil more leverage.
Working for the victims and for reform IS working against the Borg.Do you know what the victims want?Do you speak to the daily?Do u schedule press conferences for them?I am sure this is alot of pressure on Bill physically and mentaly,just as it is for the victims.So If ya wanna be negative thats your right thats what the board is for...But as for myself I wish I had the time and the money and the Balls he had to take on the borg..he lost his family because of this..what are u doing?
end of my rant
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What's with the media and the march
by Lady Lee inwhere are the reports.
what exactly happened when the media went into the doos of bethel.
were they threatened.
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I'm new
by asortafairytale ini was raised in the truth, and until the age of 18, very active(although never baptized).
i stopped going to meetings and out in service when i came to terms with being a lesbian.
i just felt like i was wasn't being true.
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Hi there fairietale,
I know how u feel..I was also raised in the org 3rd generation even ..alot of things have happened to me in the past year and I have thought maybe it was because of not being involved..But after being here for a while and reading and studing the "Truth" in ways you were told not to by them I know what they have is not the "Truth"..and I have no interest at all in going back..and The people here are great and glad to help out..
So welcome to the Board..If ya need want feel free to email and will be glad to chat with ya..
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Salisbury North Carolina Contacts?
by Lin ini am in contact with a lady living in salisbury north carolina who would really appreciate having people to talk to.
she's df'd and having a real hard time of it.
i've told her about this site, and she posts on silentlambs.
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We actually may know some of the same people...would be interesting to chat with her...
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Salisbury North Carolina Contacts?
by Lin ini am in contact with a lady living in salisbury north carolina who would really appreciate having people to talk to.
she's df'd and having a real hard time of it.
i've told her about this site, and she posts on silentlambs.
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I was raised about 30 minutes from her...in lil town called Denton...ya know one of them NC towns where they roll up the street at 9 and blow the candles out in the street lights...
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Paths along the way, after the borg, experiences?
by LyinEyes inall of us who were once jw's have had a hard time trying to find our place in the world.
many have just begun their journey since leaving the borg, only recently.
others have put it far behind them many years ago, even decades they have been away from it.
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Hi LyinEyes,
Was raised in the "Truth" and more or less drifted away for last few years because of the hypocrisy.However I still believed in what I was taught all my life.I always had Q's but never asked them because that would be challenging the GB.And we know there Jehovahs mouth piece.
However after finding this sight and finding the q's i wanted to ask answered,and all the other information thats is provided hear.I now look at things so differently.Was as if a blanket was lifted from over my eyes.Was numb for weeks after reading all this new information But it started making sense and I realized I was in a cult,whom brainwashed there followers.Sad part is I seen this for so long but thought it was just me.
I attended my first church service a month ago at a christian church.I wasnt struck dead either (hehe).I actually enjoyed it and was nothing like what I was always taught.These people are more christian than most witnesses will ever be.It was a very nice change.
Drop me a email and would love to chat more about it LyinEyes
oh and as for SIMON...THANK YOU...this sight has literaly changed my life...I know there was alot of flak going on a month or so ago..but what you did I think was for the best and your desicions have kept this sight a place where people can relax and build each other up.
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This sound familiar
by Rogue_Protecter injust wandering if any of this sounds familiar to anyone?...maybe the gb should get together with the vatican am sure they could share a few tips..
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20020922/ap_on_re_eu/church_abuse_vatican_3
report: vatican won't ok abuse plan sun sep 22,12:14 pm et .
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Just wandering if any of this sounds familiar to anyone?...Maybe the GB should get together with the Vatican am sure they could share a few tips.. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20020922/ap_on_re_eu/church_abuse_vatican_3 Report: Vatican Won't OK Abuse Plan Sun Sep 22,12:14 PM ET
By FRANCES D'EMILIO, Associated Press Writer
ROME (AP) - The Vatican ( news - web sites) next month will make known its position on the new U.S. bishops' strategy to eradicate sex abuse among clergy, a policy expected to raise objections at the Holy See.
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Check headlines for: Internet, Enterprise, Software and more...The Vatican press office on Sunday said it would not comment about a report by the National Catholic Reporter, a liberal, U.S.-based publication, that the Vatican would not grant legal approval to the guidelines, adopted in June at a Dallas meeting of U.S. bishops.
Without Rome's approval, the bishops' policy amounts to a gentlemen's agreement, as opposed to being enshrined in church law and binding on all American dioceses.
The report Saturday was similar to a recent spate of other articles quoting unnamed sources as saying that the Holy See has several problems with the guidelines, especially those which deal with the protection of priests who have been falsely accused of sexually abusing minors.
On Sunday, the Vatican pointed out what its spokesman, Joaquin Navarro-Valls, said last month after a similar report in the media.
At that time, Navarro-Valls said that the U.S. norms the parts of the policy that could become binding under church law were still under study and that no decision had been taken. He said then, during Pope John Paul ( news - web sites ) II's visit to Poland, that the Vatican would give its response soon to U.S. bishops.
Vatican officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, have said that the Holy See's response would come in October.
In preparing the response, the Vatican has been sounding out its own canon law experts and officials from several Vatican congregations dealing with bishops, clergy and matters of doctrinal orthodoxy.
After months of scandals revealing that, over the past decades, many U.S. priests who were accused of sexual abuse were moved from parish to parish, the American bishops came up with a policy to keep molesters away from parishioners.
But some at the Vatican are concerned that bishops, eager to show their flock that they are vigilant, will take innocent priests away from parish work.
And there is also worry that U.S. churchmen might act hastily in handling cases of accusations.
The Vatican also has its own tribunals, with specific and often slow-moving procedures.
In an indication of Vatican thinking, shortly before the U.S. bishops met in Dallas, a Jesuit magazine, whose articles receive Rome's approval before publication, suggested that bishops should avoid telling their flock that their parish priest had sexually abused someone if the bishops believe the priest will not carry out further abuse.
The provisions which the U.S. bishops are seeking approval for include requiring bishops to report abuse of minors to civil authorities. The Vatican traditionally allows local bishops much autonomy in handling many matters in their diocese.
While the U.S. bishops' guidelines were aimed with coming up with an across-the-board approach in handling abuse scandals, the church in the United States is itself divided over policy.
Last month, the Conference of Major Superiors of Men, which represents religious orders to which about one-third of the priests in the United States belong, decided to allow most abusers to continue in church work, away from parishioners.
The U.S. bishops had agreed in June to remove all guilty priests from church work, and, in some instances, even from the priesthood itself.
William Ryan, a spokesman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said Sunday that the Vatican has not told the Bishops when they will reach a decision on the plan.
"We've heard only positive things" about the Vatican's response to the plan, he said.