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  Mind control.

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a recent thread someone mentioned that the wtbts uses mind control techniques.

  do you think this is a conscious ploy?

  if it is it would mean that the leaders of my religion (i am still an active jw) set out consciously to control people.

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  Research Cult Mind Control. Research Scientology, Mormons, and other mind control cults. Same tactics.

  From an outsiders perspective looking in, they know exactly what they are doing. It's one thing to be a cult leader of a small group and to genuinely believe what you're spreading. It's a whole different ball game to be mind control cult leaders of a large group of people. You have to know what you're doing, to carry it forward for so long and with the amount of people under your control. With power and money, calculative strategy comes into play.

  I wouldn't be surprised if there are a group of people behind these mind control cults or mind control cults in general, who got the ball rolling and then split it into different cults. The root, being traced back to these people.

  Watch this excellent video:

  https://youtu.be/GmeSmlHyDRU
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  Advice needed on Crisis of Conscience

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, some of you may have seen my thread from yesterday about my wife waking up.. we had further discussion yesterday evening after i sent her the pbs video on the abuse scandals plaguing the watchtower.

  she was so furious and pissed off at wt hq.

  apparently a close relative of her's was abused by an elder and the only reason he was reproved and removed as an elder was because he confessed.

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  I would buy a hard copy and place it around the house. It'll be more tempting to read it versus an email which you can easily close and ignore.

  You can always read it together. One chapter at a time, then give her time to digest the information until she's ready to read the next.
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  What is dating as a JW like

  by UFCFan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off i want to say that i'm a teenager which makes my situation interesting.

  i don't want to give too many details in case someone i know reads this but i'm between 14 and 18, homeschooled, and i've been awake for around one or one and a half years.

  i already have a plan to attend usc or wisconsin university if i'm smart enough to get in and then move to san jose and try and get a job working for a hs football team or with a soccer team, since i want to coach sports or be an agent.. now, this all sounds great in theory but there's one thing i've been thinking about that makes me doubt my plan.

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  Its common to think that a girl who you've known for a long time is the one but you really don't know until you start into serious relationship, the WTS tries to interfer a lot into that investigation.

  I've always wondered how you can possibly truly know someone while you're in there as there are so many restrictions on what you can/can't do and people hanging over your heads. To explore the depths of a person requires a one of one relationship.
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  What is dating as a JW like

  by UFCFan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off i want to say that i'm a teenager which makes my situation interesting.

  i don't want to give too many details in case someone i know reads this but i'm between 14 and 18, homeschooled, and i've been awake for around one or one and a half years.

  i already have a plan to attend usc or wisconsin university if i'm smart enough to get in and then move to san jose and try and get a job working for a hs football team or with a soccer team, since i want to coach sports or be an agent.. now, this all sounds great in theory but there's one thing i've been thinking about that makes me doubt my plan.

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  You're fully aware of the situation from the get-go. If you haven't seriously been involved yet, it is not worth it to get involved and wear your heart on your sleeve only to mostly likely be led into a torture filled situation.

  Your'e not in yet, get involved with someone who fully accepts and adores you, as you.

  If you're going to test the murky waters anyway, take your time and strictly be her friend as you plants seeds and see where she lands.
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  Splash, are those talks regarding 1975 being the end date?
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  cappytan, lol that video with the Disney trolley song combined with the magazine is hilarious.

  If they justify it by old light, why even use the excuse it was speculation among rank and file JW's?

  Why does it matter if it's "old light" if they've made a false prophecy? The point isn't whether something is old or new, it goes against their very own Bible beliefs of not following anyone who predicts the future in their God's name.
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  How would this magazine effect JW's who've attempted to refute 1975 by stating it was speculation among rank and file JW's?
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  God does exist here is my nonbiblical reason:

  by Curious Kitten in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  (before you read i hope no one gets offended by the word retarted...that s how i thought when i was 13)my mom and dad are divorced and my father never helped my mother on raising us, so basically she was a single-mother.

  he just abandoned my three brothers and me and my mother had to work two jobs all of the time so we never got to see her.

  when we did see her it was after school, but all she did was yell at us, make food, and leave to her next job.

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  Curious Kitten, check your pm.
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  trying to remember what I left behind.........

  by ScottyRex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i watched this tonight and it made me think.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almbxqvwpei have a look x

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  Athanasius those were my exact thoughts. I'm a fan of Dead Can Dance and Lisa Gerrard. It certainly is copyrighted and no way would they want an association with a deceitful organization that uses mind control techniques.
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  Eyebrows up!... Eyebrows down!...

  by Splash in

  1. social
  2. humour

  today... i'm going to talk to you..... about "sisters!!".

  now our dear sisters... have a place ... in god's organisation.

  they are not permitted to teach!.

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  That man reminds me of Heaven's Gate cult leader..