Posts by Illuminated

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Movies/Books for Cult Survivors

by Brighid in

for me, there have always been special movies or scenes in movies that trigger my old jw experience (fiddler on the roof and little mermaid touched me deeply when i watched them as a young jw).

later as a survivor, it was more donnie darko, thx 1138 themes that struck me in particular.. anyway, looking for suggestions on great movies, books (art of any kind, really) that especially speak to or move you as a jw survivor?

there are reasons beyond purely entertainment that i ask..

Illuminated

The Island.

Truman Show.

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Riddle me this applewhite expert if what?

by poopie in

jw
friends

now here is my question.

jw sisters are forbidden to read any elder book any or anything for elder eyes only yet ms appleseed who is considerd an wt expert is a practicing catholic part of babylon the great can read all this info in fact they give it to her.

this is mind boggling.

Illuminated

sparrowdown according to their own actions, there's too much major evidence the higher ups, do not believe any of it. It's all a design.

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Riddle me this applewhite expert if what?

by poopie in

jw
friends

now here is my question.

jw sisters are forbidden to read any elder book any or anything for elder eyes only yet ms appleseed who is considerd an wt expert is a practicing catholic part of babylon the great can read all this info in fact they give it to her.

this is mind boggling.

Illuminated

And she has letters,documents ,manuals etc. from the WTB&TS that are for Elders eyes only , whereby no women in good standing in the religion of Jehovah`s Witnesses are permitted to see.
Am I missing something here ? A religion that claims to be the only true religion employs a person from the principled false religion to defend them in a Royal Commission here in Australia. ?

Smiddy, this is yet another added component in that the higher ups, do not believe the very nonsense they force down the throats of it's members. If it was flipped, and "Dr" Applewhite was representing "worldly" people against the WTS, you know what WT would tell it's cult victim members about her. Yet, they choose to play around with "worldly" members of society that they are technically highly against, whenever they please if it benefits them.

Why isn't "Jehovah" sending them JW's to represent them every single time? If she's part of "Satan's" system, she must be lying in every thing she says about being an expert witness to the WTS, right?! The higher ups are full of it.

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Geoffrey Jackson. Seems he will be compelled to front up.

by umbertoecho in

pray for brother jackson of the governing body!.

in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .

source.

Illuminated

I'd like to know, why aren't they looking into Lett's and Morris' recent videos about child abuse - maybe they have? They come off, off and contradicting.

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An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing

by cofty in

all jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.

Illuminated

Thank you cofty for sending an email!

They had someone call me back from the Royal Commission yesterday and relay what happened to my former partner as a child. It was confidential - I don't care or fear the cult, but for his sake I'm glad. I expressed to them that the way the elder was going around in circles in how they handled it with the victim was a lie, that the WTS does handle abuse cases that way as they did exactly that with my partner. I also explained "Theocratic Warfare" yet I'm sure you explained it in more details.

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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

by Calebs Airplane in

the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

that is all..

Illuminated

DJS, I get your perspective as well, however playing the devils advocate here, the government is capable of playing "theocratic warfare" as well!

And if there are JW lurkers here, no, this doesn't apply to your cult being "God's chosen" and the outside world all being evil. The evidence presented in the Australian Royal Commission for instance, is being questioned based on your own cult's written documents.

And yes, username, I fully agree.

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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

by Calebs Airplane in

the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

that is all..

Illuminated

Yes it was difficult but most of us achieved it by comparing what the scary apostates had to say with the evidence. In most cases the apostates were vindicated.
Test what conspiracy theorists claim with evidence. What usually happens?

nicolauo, I appreciate what you're saying. What I'm saying is, what's presented isn't always the case. What was considered "conspiracy theories" at one point, have been brought to light and are now considered "facts". I now keep an open mind. I don't place my trust in every single CT that's presented, and I certainly don't place my trust in every single aspect of what the government presents.

The WT has the ability to control their mind controlled members by taking information out of context and stoning people with name calling on the outside so their followers won't be open to this information. Our government has the ability to do that in a much larger and powerful scale.

I personally do believe the WTS is linked in with the powers that be somehow, and the reason they get away with so much is tied to this. Anyone here who drops name calling just because they disagree is doing the same thing the cult members do to outside members.

And DJS, as far as "feeling special" with having "accurate knowledge", this is a projection of the WT culture. Not everyone who disagrees with you in the outside world feels this way.

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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

by Calebs Airplane in

the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

that is all..

Illuminated

done4good,

When you say,

Ex-JWs that believe every conspiracy theory are just falling for yet another, albeit smaller, than the one they previously based their entire life on.

That can be said for ex-JW's and the world at large who fall for what the government presents at face value just like how cult members fall for what their leaders present as "facts" and all else coming from "mentally diseased apostates."

I am real, in looking at all angles of a situation, keeping an open mind of the possibility of things, using my critical thinking skills and not so easily swallowing what our government leaders present.

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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

by Calebs Airplane in

the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

that is all..

Illuminated

Guys, why is it so difficult to believe in "Conspiracy theories" especially when many in the past that fell into this category, have proven themselves to be currently accurate.

I understand many of us appreciate facts, yet consider our government a larger version of the WTS. It was difficult to believe "Apostates" when you all were in due to WT propaganda, yet you've awakened and now see the cult for what it is.

There's government propaganda and mind control at a larger scale as well - use your critical thinking abilities in this area. WT, has been in fact linked to the UN, and the situation with Rand Cam! We've only scratched the surface, I wouldn't put it past WT, Mormons and Scientology to be linked to the elite somehow. I personally believe WT is and the way they get away with everything along with their eerie new world order similarities supports this in my perspective. Keep an open mind, it's possible.

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l just had a discussion with my uber Dub father about the RC in Australia

by joe134cd in

just jotting this down while it's fresh in my mind.. joe= apparently they have got issues over in australia at the moment with sex abuse, and this time the government got involved.. dad=yeah they mentioned this at the assembly last weekend.

apparently so they said all religions and organisations are been investigated.

joe= kind of seems funny how the only 2 religious groups been interviewed so far are the catholics and jws.

Illuminated

Cognac, yes, the attorneys and judge in the RC were feeling this way as well based on their expressions and patience being tested.