Illuminated
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Soooo, when I tell you I feel it's a cult
by cognac inwhy would you proceed to invite me to their meetings?
wtf?
how much clearer can i make my stance????
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Illuminated
They are telling you that hoping the unholy spirit of the 7 men will work it's magic on you. -
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For those of you "not baptised" and too afraid to front the RC. WT is hoping you won't come forward.
by umbertoecho inhello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.
the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.
if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.
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Thank you for starting this post. My heart goes out to you and I am sorry this all has happened. Having been a partner of a victim of WTS sexual abuse, I have seen the horror it's caused with the awful symptoms. We have to encourage victims to come forward. None of you are alone. Place the shame, guilt and fear where it belongs - the WTS from top down. They should be ashamed, guilty and fearful of their asses being grilled and putting their disgusting needs over the safety of children.
I recently found out with the help of one of the loving members here that the pedophile who abused my love is a reputable executive/director/businessman related type of many organizations and that his top online personal interests are listed as "children" - feeling disgusting and furious is an understatement. He's a Jehovah's Witness in good standing.
We support you.
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More Inspiring Young Awakenings
by freemindfade ini just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
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So they need 2 Witnesses in order to protect children from rape, yet 1 Witness turned them in? Where's the 2 Witnesses? And what's the purpose of Satan's job, if they're doing it for him? -
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Looking for JW Royal Commission documents from their site
by Illuminated ini was looking on the royal commission site for the elder's letter stating pedophiles can become elders, shepherding the flock book and other useful information i'd like to share with a loved one yet i wasn't able to find it.. i'd appreciate it if anyone can assist me with finding this information directly from their site to be shared!
thank you!.
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Thank you wifi. I have not sent out this info yet and will hold onto those links. -
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Looking for JW Royal Commission documents from their site
by Illuminated ini was looking on the royal commission site for the elder's letter stating pedophiles can become elders, shepherding the flock book and other useful information i'd like to share with a loved one yet i wasn't able to find it.. i'd appreciate it if anyone can assist me with finding this information directly from their site to be shared!
thank you!.
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Looking for JW Royal Commission documents from their site
by Illuminated ini was looking on the royal commission site for the elder's letter stating pedophiles can become elders, shepherding the flock book and other useful information i'd like to share with a loved one yet i wasn't able to find it.. i'd appreciate it if anyone can assist me with finding this information directly from their site to be shared!
thank you!.
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Illuminated
I was looking on the Royal Commission site for the elder's letter stating pedophiles can become elders, Shepherding The Flock book and other useful information I'd like to share with a loved one yet I wasn't able to find it.
I'd appreciate it if anyone can assist me with finding this information directly from their site to be shared! Thank you!
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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders
by stuckinamovement inhttp://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf
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Will someone help me figure out where I can find the link on this thread along with further information on the Royal Commission site? I typed in Jehovah's Witnesses in the search engine hoping I'd find it and nothing came up.
I'd like send this valuable information to a sexual abuse victim directly from the ARC site.
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A few facts to ponder
by Nitty-Gritty ini have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.
some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.
this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.
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As with most traumatic events in people's lives, how the trauma is addressed AFTER the fact is often more impactful on an individual's future life and development than the actual trauma itself.
Yes, this very statement was confirmed by my loved one who's a WT sexual abuse victim. The way it was handled by the elders and the leaders harmed him even more so then the abuse.
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A few facts to ponder
by Nitty-Gritty ini have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.
some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.
this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.
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Nitty-Gritty wrote: "...Also, sorry to disappoint you, but most “worldly” people are not going to be “put off” by the JWs because of child molestation issues as they know this is prevalent in all society..."
I've never been a JW and wouldn't suggest you speak for non-JW's.
Why is your priority set on defending 7 men and it's corrupt immoral policies versus having compassion and an eagerness to defend these children who've grown into adults and have suffered their entire lives? "Worldly" people don't pay much attention to JW's, and if you bring up the organization, overall they're referred to as "That weird religion who are like salespeople" or "Mind control cult". Yet, there's still a sense of sympathy for the members who've been so easily misled. The irony is the members are clearly under undue influence attempting to hold up teachings built on a stack of cards by a series of corrupt men who control your entire lives and thoughts - convincing you it's the other way around...
Who's controlled by satan? Worldly organizations who shed light out of genuine care for the safety of children onto the darkness WTS has tried to hide, or WTS who's more concerned about it's reputation and doesn't want the darkness exposed? I mean, is your god really that small where he's concerned about the reputation of his earthly name versus thousands of children being raped, sodomized and gagged with male body parts? Or are these 7 leaders bullshitting you?
If you're so proud of your organization, try telling the next "worldly" person you come across that your beloved organization has a two witness policy in sexual abuse cases. That there's a judicial meeting involving 3 elders/the pedophile/and the victim all in one room while the surrounding men force the victim to give detailed information of the abuse while the pedophile scumbag denies it and remains in the organization further exposing himself to innocent children and the victim is forced to shut up otherwise it's slander. Then the victim is forced to confront the pedophile and tell him/her all is forgiven, followed by the pedophile at times being transferred to other congregations without any warning to the members in the new congregation, along with being shipped to our doors. Let's see what their reaction will be. Every non-JW family and friends I've shared this with were absolutely appalled and disgusted.
The sexual abuse and testimonies of the victims are real, they have happened and they are happening. This is what happened to my love as a little child, and it's further confirmed with every other WTS sexual abuse case/victim, very similar stories it is eerie and deeply heartbreaking. These victims have lived a life of horror, trauma, anguish, continuous flashbacks/post traumatic stress disorder, falling into drugs and alcohol in order to cope with the repetitive detailed nightmares and flashbacks of the abuse, immense fear, isolation, self worth issues, intimate relationship dysfunction, suicide attempts and the list goes on.
What have you members done besides blown off the victim with one excuse after another stating "Wait on Jehovah"... Wait on Jehovah when a child is sodomized while staring at the wall with tears coming down their face unable to physically run??? Wait on Jehovah while you sit in during a meeting while a child somewhere is being sexually assaulted that very moment because of your organizations policies looking out for their own best interest? What about the "worldly" child next door being exposed to a pedophile? Yet a member caught smoking is turned in and disfellowshipped? It's so horrifically disturbing it's borderline comical.
It seems like you're trying hard to convince yourself your beloved 7 leaders are who they say they are. WTS is worse then the Catholics. At least they don't spread the horrific parasites door to door further increasing the risk of a child being raped. I'll give them that in comparison. Your 7 leaders and it's puppets have made "Satan's" job easier by hopping on his boat and further polluting the world with trauma - you're helping as well by promoting it.
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Is the Holy Spirit directing this testimony?
by Mad Sweeney inif anybody can advise how to get the vid to show here, i'll edit this post.
thanks.apologies for the inconsistent sound levels.. https://youtu.be/nok514dqlti.
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So they're all "not sure" or "can't remember"? Sounds like lines their leaders gave them.