I'd like to know, why aren't they looking into Lett's and Morris' recent videos about child abuse - maybe they have? They come off, off and contradicting.
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Geoffrey Jackson. Seems he will be compelled to front up.
by umbertoecho inpray for brother jackson of the governing body!.
in todays news from australia it appears that, despite his previous declination to appear when invited, justice mcclellan from the australian royal commission on child sex abuse will officially summon brother geoffrey jackson to the stand after all.. ..... the commission was due to conclude its hearings into the jehovahs witnesses on wednesday but justice mcclellan said he will now call geoffrey jackson, a senior member of the churchs governing body in new york who is currently in australia, to appear next week.. .
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An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing
by cofty inall jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.
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Thank you cofty for sending an email!
They had someone call me back from the Royal Commission yesterday and relay what happened to my former partner as a child. It was confidential - I don't care or fear the cult, but for his sake I'm glad. I expressed to them that the way the elder was going around in circles in how they handled it with the victim was a lie, that the WTS does handle abuse cases that way as they did exactly that with my partner. I also explained "Theocratic Warfare" yet I'm sure you explained it in more details.
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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!
by Calebs Airplane inthe rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).
the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.
that is all..
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DJS, I get your perspective as well, however playing the devils advocate here, the government is capable of playing "theocratic warfare" as well!
And if there are JW lurkers here, no, this doesn't apply to your cult being "God's chosen" and the outside world all being evil. The evidence presented in the Australian Royal Commission for instance, is being questioned based on your own cult's written documents.
And yes, username, I fully agree.
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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!
by Calebs Airplane inthe rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).
the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.
that is all..
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Yes it was difficult but most of us achieved it by comparing what the scary apostates had to say with the evidence. In most cases the apostates were vindicated.
Test what conspiracy theorists claim with evidence. What usually happens?nicolauo, I appreciate what you're saying. What I'm saying is, what's presented isn't always the case. What was considered "conspiracy theories" at one point, have been brought to light and are now considered "facts". I now keep an open mind. I don't place my trust in every single CT that's presented, and I certainly don't place my trust in every single aspect of what the government presents.
The WT has the ability to control their mind controlled members by taking information out of context and stoning people with name calling on the outside so their followers won't be open to this information. Our government has the ability to do that in a much larger and powerful scale.
I personally do believe the WTS is linked in with the powers that be somehow, and the reason they get away with so much is tied to this. Anyone here who drops name calling just because they disagree is doing the same thing the cult members do to outside members.
And DJS, as far as "feeling special" with having "accurate knowledge", this is a projection of the WT culture. Not everyone who disagrees with you in the outside world feels this way.
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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!
by Calebs Airplane inthe rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).
the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.
that is all..
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done4good,
When you say,
Ex-JWs that believe every conspiracy theory are just falling for yet another, albeit smaller, than the one they previously based their entire life on.
That can be said for ex-JW's and the world at large who fall for what the government presents at face value just like how cult members fall for what their leaders present as "facts" and all else coming from "mentally diseased apostates."
I am real, in looking at all angles of a situation, keeping an open mind of the possibility of things, using my critical thinking skills and not so easily swallowing what our government leaders present.
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The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!
by Calebs Airplane inthe rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).
the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.
that is all..
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Guys, why is it so difficult to believe in "Conspiracy theories" especially when many in the past that fell into this category, have proven themselves to be currently accurate.
I understand many of us appreciate facts, yet consider our government a larger version of the WTS. It was difficult to believe "Apostates" when you all were in due to WT propaganda, yet you've awakened and now see the cult for what it is.
There's government propaganda and mind control at a larger scale as well - use your critical thinking abilities in this area. WT, has been in fact linked to the UN, and the situation with Rand Cam! We've only scratched the surface, I wouldn't put it past WT, Mormons and Scientology to be linked to the elite somehow. I personally believe WT is and the way they get away with everything along with their eerie new world order similarities supports this in my perspective. Keep an open mind, it's possible.
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l just had a discussion with my uber Dub father about the RC in Australia
by joe134cd injust jotting this down while it's fresh in my mind.. joe= apparently they have got issues over in australia at the moment with sex abuse, and this time the government got involved.. dad=yeah they mentioned this at the assembly last weekend.
apparently so they said all religions and organisations are been investigated.
joe= kind of seems funny how the only 2 religious groups been interviewed so far are the catholics and jws.
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Why aren't the Governing Body members being investigated in the ARC?
by Illuminated inwhen there's a malfunction in a product that causes an injury or death, the head of the corporation is held accountable not the salesmen selling the product.
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why aren't the governing body members being investigated when they are the root cause of the child abuse issues and the re-victimization that takes place after?.
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fmf I understand, however, they are the ones misapplying Bible scriptures, are they not? Unless they are simply the puppets in the front, and whoever's behind them is controlling it all.
It all comes off shady.
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Why aren't the Governing Body members being investigated in the ARC?
by Illuminated inwhen there's a malfunction in a product that causes an injury or death, the head of the corporation is held accountable not the salesmen selling the product.
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why aren't the governing body members being investigated when they are the root cause of the child abuse issues and the re-victimization that takes place after?.
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It seems like the Governing Body may very well not be in charge of Jehovah's Witnesses after all, and they're probably puppets of who ever is - legal department perhaps? -
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Why aren't the Governing Body members being investigated in the ARC?
by Illuminated inwhen there's a malfunction in a product that causes an injury or death, the head of the corporation is held accountable not the salesmen selling the product.
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why aren't the governing body members being investigated when they are the root cause of the child abuse issues and the re-victimization that takes place after?.
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When there's a malfunction in a product that causes an injury or death, the head of the corporation is held accountable not the salesmen selling the product.
Why aren't the Governing Body members being investigated when they are the root cause of the child abuse issues and the re-victimization that takes place after?