Education doesn't seem to matter. Take Scientology and Mormons, they are highly educated for the most part with careers in higher fields yet they are still trapped in a destructive mind control cult.
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What’s the deal with all the Smart-Educated JWs?
by John Aquila inwe talk a lot about most jws being uneducated, uninformed, and that they lack critical thinking skills, but in my area there is a lot of jws that went to the university, medical school, law school, and came back to the organization.
in my circuit, that i know of, we had two electrical engineers, one computer engineer with a ph.d. eight teachers with a bachelors degree and three of those with a masters in education.
we had two medical doctors, one was a pediatrician who closed his business about 3 years ago and went to bethel.
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How Jehovah's Witnesses could become a huge mainstream religion without harming people. Any thoughts?
by JWchange inif jws did the following, i believe they would grow exponentially and become one of the largest 'religions' on earth : .
1. no more dfing or shunning......its up to your conscience who you like or don't like.
in the same way if i was catholic living in ireland, i wouldn't hang out with my neighbor if she was a drunk fornicator, just had an abortion, had a taliban boyfriend and also supported liverpool soccer club.
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Not with their history. How would it erase the mass murder and pedophilia they've committed on top of their wacky child like doctrine? -
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where shall we go
by Sabin inyesterday i read something that hurt my heart.
at a talk given by a brother lyman swingle ( i apologize if i am stepping out of line by using this) he said "that if you leave the jw ( i find it difficult to refer to it as the truth now days) you may as well go jump off a bridge".
this i think is disgraceful talk to say to any body let alone an audience in which children are present.
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WT is similar to pedophiles on many levels, along with abusive partners who tell their partner they won't be wanted by anyone else besides them. -
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FMF: A Wake Up Story
by freemindfade insorry for the length of this, i hope anyone stopping by to read will take the time and read it.
i haven't included any things i would consider "apostate" specifics about doctrines, or major scandals.
it's just a general layout of the path i took to becoming an exjw.
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I think it comes down to intuition (gut instinct - internal compass) that sends out signals which is denied by lower levels of the mind (programming). Our internal compass always carries the truth. A lot of us have learned not to trust it, and even more so with heavier programming.
I'm glad you're out.
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I feel blessed
by vinman ini just wanted to express a simple thought.
having awakened 11 months ago , i feel blessed to have awakened at this special time.
i feel so vindicated.
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Sorry, meant to "like" your post, using a phone. -
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Asking Her Out - Follow Up - Advice?
by Garrett insoooo..... going to ask that wonderful lady for her phone number tonight as per everyone's advice... first time i will ever be doing that with a non jw girl...erm...woman.
my dear female friends, what are some genuine questions i can pose to get a conversation rolling and what are some other questions/things i can ask/say to restart a stalled conversation?
i'm very very shy when talking to new people... especially someone i'm interested in, and have some social anxiety.
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Humor, if you're a natural at it. It get's us most of the time.
Confidence, in who you are even if you're shy. Don't mistake this with arrogance.
Look at her in the eyes, be present, get to know her. When you do this, your anxiety will melt away and you'll be genuine.
Don't feel insecure just because you have the JW past, if chemistry is there it won't matter. We all have pasts.
Avoid over pleasing. See her as your equal. Have fun, be attentive. If it doesn't work out in this stage, it comes down to chemistry ultimately imo.
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Today I learned - I'm incapable of having a relationship
by Garrett inhello my dear friends,.
while this post may not be entirely witness related, i figured i'd write out my thoughts here as a form of release and reflection.. recently, a lot has changed in my life.
i'm away from home for the first time in a long while training to get certified in a field i'm not even sure i want to work in anymore.
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Introvert characteristics make sense as well. Your abuse background ties in with the intimacy phobia. May be both? -
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Today I learned - I'm incapable of having a relationship
by Garrett inhello my dear friends,.
while this post may not be entirely witness related, i figured i'd write out my thoughts here as a form of release and reflection.. recently, a lot has changed in my life.
i'm away from home for the first time in a long while training to get certified in a field i'm not even sure i want to work in anymore.
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Those are classic symptoms of intimacy phobia. It's caused by some form of abuse either as a child or adult/heart break in previous relationship or abandonment.
It's a case of being afraid of getting hurt by getting too close and having that love/happiness taken away and leaving you broken.
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Who am I to screw up their happiness?
by Crazyguy inthat was the question to me tonight.
because of their beliefs they have a moral compass, a net work of friends and a support group.
they have what they believe is a loving god.
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It's not simply a matter of a belief system as we're talking about intentional mind control here. The way a pedophile operates is very similar to the leaders of the WTS. The cult itself carries the same tone of grooming/promising all sorts of great things, gaining power over the victim(s), abusing, then denying and placing the fault onto the victim. You're family is literally being abused and conned.
Is their moral compass that weak that they need to be lied to and threatened with the illusion of "Armageddon" in order to behave? Come hang out with me, I'll introduce you to many great people from all walks of life and belief systems, including Atheists and you'll get a real taste of moral compass. I am not an Atheist, yet based on experience I've found Atheists to have the greatest set of morals and they have nothing to gain.
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If the elders were abused sexually this problem would have been taken care of long time ago.
by Still Totally ADD ini feel the real problem with the wt cult concerning child abuse is it happens to children not adult men.
notice i didn't say adult women because they don't care about adult women either.
i remember a c.o.
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Johnathan Drake,
secondly, statistics have shown for years that a person who is sexually abused is more likely to be come a sexual predator. I have read that in many places
I don't know where you're getting your facts/ statistics, it is incorrect. Most sex offenders were Not sexually assaulted as children and it is a misconception that a child who's sexually assaulted is more likely to become a predator or homosexual.
As for the problem being taken care of if elders were abused as adults. I know of an exJW who was abused as a child and became an elder. His case wasn't handled any better when the pedophile came back into the organization.