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  PLEASE, Y'ALL OUT THERE

  by Physio in

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  please, y'all out there..congratulate dansk on becoming a jedi master.. since we've been out (feb 03) this board and all you lovely people on it have been the greatest source of inspiration to both dansk and myself.

  you'll never realise how much you have helped us to cope with the whole ordeal.

  so reaching his jedi status is a real milestone.. you're all life-savers and you didn't even know it!!!.

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  Dansk

  Avengers,

  Thank you, my Dutch friend!

  Cheers - but would you mind if I put lemonade in it to make a shandy?

  Dansk
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  A little history on the Bible

  by gumby in

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  it's always intresting to hear the answers you get from people about how and when the bible was formed.

  many minds go only as far as believing it was simply a compilation of god ordained books that we have to this day.

  below is just a small bit of information that many may not be familiar with.

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  For anyone seriously interested in how the Bible was put together I strongly recommend the following book, which is available from Amazon by mail order (can you all see the picture?).

  Dansk

  
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  A little history on the Bible

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's always intresting to hear the answers you get from people about how and when the bible was formed.

  many minds go only as far as believing it was simply a compilation of god ordained books that we have to this day.

  below is just a small bit of information that many may not be familiar with.

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  Dansk

  Gumby,

  I'm liking you more and more

  I only wish more people on this forum would research the origins of the Bible - and I don't mean just using apologist books and websites. That's of no use at all for a critical analysis. No one is saying not to believe in God, but understanding Bible origins actually enhances one's appreciation for other beliefs because one is no longer constrained by fear. Education really is a wonderful thing!

  A very good and interesting post, Gumby.

  Dansk
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  PLEASE, Y'ALL OUT THERE

  by Physio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please, y'all out there..congratulate dansk on becoming a jedi master.. since we've been out (feb 03) this board and all you lovely people on it have been the greatest source of inspiration to both dansk and myself.

  you'll never realise how much you have helped us to cope with the whole ordeal.

  so reaching his jedi status is a real milestone.. you're all life-savers and you didn't even know it!!!.

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  Dansk

  Brummie, Realist, SixofNine, SpannerintheWorks, Angharad, Hamas, Blondie, Calamityjane, City fan, safe4kids, Rayzorblade, shamus, xjw_b12, wordlygirl, Cassiline, LyinEyes, rocketman, unique1, ISP, outoftheorg, zugzfree, Warrigal, SheilaM, termite 35, ballistic and Valis

  Many thanks for your extremely kind messages. I'm deeply touched that you should even think of me!

  Shamus and xjw_b12, CONGRATULATIONS on your own Jediship!!!!!

  There isn't anyone on this board who can't learn something from others here - and I've learnt a LOT!

  You're all great company and I'm proud to be amongst you!

  Dansk
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  THE TRANSFIGURATION – BALONEY!

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following passages are all taken from the new world translation.. matthew 17:1 "six days later jesus took peter and james and john his brother along and brought them up into a lofty mountain by themselves.".

  mark 9:2 "accordingly six days later jesus took peter and james and john along , and brought them up into a lofty mountain to themselves alone.

  and he was transfigured before them.".

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  Gamaliel,

  That was a great post. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

  Dansk
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  PLEASE, Y'ALL OUT THERE

  by Physio in

  1. jw
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  please, y'all out there..congratulate dansk on becoming a jedi master.. since we've been out (feb 03) this board and all you lovely people on it have been the greatest source of inspiration to both dansk and myself.

  you'll never realise how much you have helped us to cope with the whole ordeal.

  so reaching his jedi status is a real milestone.. you're all life-savers and you didn't even know it!!!.

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  Dansk

  P.S. What does SITH mean?

  Dansk
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  PLEASE, Y'ALL OUT THERE

  by Physio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please, y'all out there..congratulate dansk on becoming a jedi master.. since we've been out (feb 03) this board and all you lovely people on it have been the greatest source of inspiration to both dansk and myself.

  you'll never realise how much you have helped us to cope with the whole ordeal.

  so reaching his jedi status is a real milestone.. you're all life-savers and you didn't even know it!!!.

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  Dansk

  A sincere thanks to EVERYONE!!!!!!!

  I genuinely didn’t know Physio was sneaking upstairs to the computer to post her message – but now I’ve read all your replies I’m glad she did. I’m overwhelmed!!

  I consider you all my TRUE friends and I love you dearly. You’ve helped more than you’ll EVER know!

  City Fan, we’ve just got to meet up some day – you’re so close by!

  Love to all,

  Dansk
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  THE TRANSFIGURATION – BALONEY!

  by Dansk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following passages are all taken from the new world translation.. matthew 17:1 "six days later jesus took peter and james and john his brother along and brought them up into a lofty mountain by themselves.".

  mark 9:2 "accordingly six days later jesus took peter and james and john along , and brought them up into a lofty mountain to themselves alone.

  and he was transfigured before them.".

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  Hooberus

  I logged on to http://www.tektonics.org/tekton_02_02_02.html and came across this:

  We will examine and dispose of the common arguments for dating the Gospels late, and for rejecting their traditional authorship. With this, I will also offer two caveats:

  1. Authorship and date are important; but equally important, if not more so, is whether what is in the Gospels is true.
  Regardless of who wrote the Gospels and when, if they reflect reality correctly, then it points to their being written by eyewitnesses, or having eyewitnesses as their source. Thus, even if the traditional authorship and earliest dates are disproved - and it is my contention that the arguments against them are inadequate - it matters very little, we may surmise, who wrote them and when.

  The author here is giving circular reasoning by stating that "while authorship is important" and then stating "even if the traditional authorship and earliest dates are disproved - and it is my contention that the arguments against them are inadequate - it matters very little, we may surmise, who wrote them and when."

  The website author, further down, states:

  "If the Gospels are anonymous, why is there no other surviving tradition of another author for the Gospels? Second-century testimony is unanimous in attributing the four Gospels to the persons that now carry their name. This suggests that they received their titles early; for if they had not, there would have been a great deal of speculation as to who had written them - "a variation of titles would have inevitably risen," as had happened with the apocryphal gospels. [Thie.EvJ, 15]; see also [Heng.Mark, 82] It is rather harder to believe that the Gospels circulated anonymously for 60 or more years and then someone finally thought to put authors on them -- and managed to get the whole church across the Roman Empire to agree!"

  The comment in bold is completely untrue. For example, the Protevangelion or Gospel of James was in use at least 25 years before the four Gospels were. http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_james.htm

  Tischendorf assigns it to the first thirty years of the 2 nd Century, Justin Martyr quotes from it and Origen says that it was everywhere well known about the close of the 2 nd Century (Keeler, 1881). Some of the passages in this book, along with other similar earlier works, are identical to those of the Gospels.

  And, actually, Second Century testimony was NOT unanimous in attributing the four Gospels that now carry their name. The first writer to mention all four Gospels by name was Irenaeus: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/irenaeus.html

  "Irenaeus of Lyons wrote his Against Heresies c. 175-185 CE. His work is invaluable to modern scholarship in the attempt to recover the content of Gnostic teachings in the second century. Irenaeus also provides the first explicit witness to a four-fold gospel canon."

  It was only AFTER Irenaeus, in the 3 rd Century, that the Gospels we have now were accepted by the early Christian Fathers as being written by the names of those who carry authorship. While on the subject, look up good biographies on Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria and Tertullian. They were, IMHO, a trio of bandits!!

  Hooberus, once again you use an apologist’s site for your "proof". Show me unbiased archaeological and historical evidence to back up your position.

  Mary,

  I said: Don’t you think it strange that after witnessing a major faith-strengthening event John shouldn’t even mention it?

  You replied:

  Not necessarily. After all, there is absolutely no mention in the New Testament about the Fall of Jerusalem in 70CE even though the writers would have obviously known all about it as they were living at that time and in the place it happened.

  Erm, I think you're proving my point here! Any event of such magnitude - and especially one that backs up the prophecy of the Messiah, Jesus - would surely be written down. The fact that it is not is testimony to the fact that much in the NT is spurious.

  As I respectfully asked of Hooberus I ask you, likewise, to provide evidence from sources other than the Bible and apologists.

  Best wishes,

  Dansk
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  PLEASE, Y'ALL OUT THERE

  by Physio in

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  2. friends

  please, y'all out there..congratulate dansk on becoming a jedi master.. since we've been out (feb 03) this board and all you lovely people on it have been the greatest source of inspiration to both dansk and myself.

  you'll never realise how much you have helped us to cope with the whole ordeal.

  so reaching his jedi status is a real milestone.. you're all life-savers and you didn't even know it!!!.

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  Dansk

  Erm, Darling, I was rather hoping no one would notice....................

  Thanks, any way!
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  Where is the evidence

  by KGB in

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  many of you make claim that god does not exist, you say that you found your evidence in the bible, what i want to know is where is the evidence.

  i am not interested in just mere thoughts but actuall evidence

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  drwtsn32

  My wife is studying very ancient religions and it is amazing how Christianity "borrowed" so many concepts from older religions. That too makes it even harder for me to imagine Christianity is any more special than all the other religions of the world.

  In a nutshell! Excellent!

  Dansk