Adding, removing, changing and omitting texts in the bible to suit a heretical cult's doctrines. Then getting its 8 million or so adherents to believe its the best translation ever, produced by the worlds finest linguists and don't bother with any other.
abbasgreta
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The UNFORGIVABLE Sin: What Is It?
by Cold Steel injesus said: .
verily i say unto you, all sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: but he that shall blaspheme against the holy ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
(mark 3:28-29).
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Do you think "Blondie" is addicted to reading Watchtowers and Awakes?
by booker-t ini remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.
i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.
i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.
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I am jealous of Blondie's IT skills. I ALWAYS look forward to her WT analysis. Part of me secretly hopes she's Debbie Harry...
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New Light on 1918?
by Vanderhoven7 inis 1918 done away completely by new light?
according to the new light..... when did the first resurrection begin?
and when did jesus reject all the churches of christendom?.
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abbasgreta
Clarity: Thanks, will do my best! Why does it double post?
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New Light on 1918?
by Vanderhoven7 inis 1918 done away completely by new light?
according to the new light..... when did the first resurrection begin?
and when did jesus reject all the churches of christendom?.
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Desirous: Thanks, do I just move the cursor into the message and press the red cancel? (Ashamed of my IT skills)
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New Light on 1918?
by Vanderhoven7 inis 1918 done away completely by new light?
according to the new light..... when did the first resurrection begin?
and when did jesus reject all the churches of christendom?.
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Posted twice - oops!
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New Light on 1918?
by Vanderhoven7 inis 1918 done away completely by new light?
according to the new light..... when did the first resurrection begin?
and when did jesus reject all the churches of christendom?.
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abbasgreta
And who are the"least of these my brothers" in Matthew 25 - to whom we should do good too NOW, to gain Jesus' approval? 8 men in Brooklyn? The GB have always lived in the lap of luxury. IF it refers to the REAL poor, imprisoned, hungry and naked of the world - well - do they and have they ever done anything by way of a concerted effort? No. As my jw mum , watching a pathetic little dying African child in a Save the Children ad sniffed, "Don't let it get to you, let the world turn, it has nothing to do with US". I said to an elder upon reasons for leaving the org "If Jesus was on the earth today, do you honestly think he would be in Brooklyn overseeing the printing of millions of books, or would he be in AIDS-ridden starving Africa, giving of himself to the situation there?" I believe it floored him.
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New Light on 1918?
by Vanderhoven7 inis 1918 done away completely by new light?
according to the new light..... when did the first resurrection begin?
and when did jesus reject all the churches of christendom?.
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And who are the"least of these my brothers" in Matthew 25 - to whom we should do good too NOW, to gain Jesus' approval? 8 men in Brooklyn? The GB have always lived in the lap of luxury. IF it refers to the REAL poor, imprisoned, hungry and naked of the world - well - do they and have they ever done anything by way of a concerted effort? No. As my jw mum , watching a pathetic little dying African child in a Save the Children ad sniffed, "Don't let it get to you, let the world turn, it has nothing to do with US". I said to an elder upon reasons for leaving the org "If Jesus was on the earth today, do you honestly think he would be in Brooklyn overseeing the printing of millions of books, or would he be in AIDS-ridden starving Africa, giving of himself to the situation there?" I believe it floored him.
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Now that I am out, which bible should i read? Feeling free at last!
by Freethinking76 inso, now that i am out for good, which bible should i read?
there is no way i will read the wt one..so i still want to have a relationship with god but don't know how to choose a bible.
it is very hard to dewired yourself and ,sometimes i feel that i don't have a relationship with him.the what ifs come and go still.last night i was up all night reading and researching , can't shake off the shock still to know ttatt.
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abbasgreta
I love the Contemporary English Version, the NIV (Anglicised - clear and natural English) and the New Living Translation. I recommend simultaneous referral to a bible companion reference like Lyons - gives you all the meanings of the original languages where necessary, plus tons of background historical info, beliefs/customs pertinent to the time etc. - vital when studying the Holy Scriptures. I read my NLT like this in 3 weeks and appreciated the massive input in the Lyons Handbook from all the secular contributors. For all that, see 1 John 2:27. I wish you all joy in your study!
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Are You Interested In Religion Of Any Sort At This Point In Your Life?
by minimus inpersonally, i respect that everyone has choices to believe whatever they want to believe.
i have no interest in joining another religion....what about you?.
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iCeltic: I think these "splits" exist due to pre-formed ideas which are based on poor bible education. As jws we were guilty of this on many counts on so many points - not our fault, it was the wts false teachings based on the terrible New World Translation. Justin Welby for example said on the subject of same-sex marriages that he had very close friends whose amazing gay marriage sometimes left him feeling jealous - it was so "great". Why cant such a marriage be great? Of course it can. Care and legal protection should be the norm for any legal of-age relationship. Homosexuality is not being "condoned" by such a comment, rather, love and mercy and humility (leaving all matters in Christ's hands) are being shown to be the driving force in our relationship with fellow humans. The first line of my comment also goes for the "split" regarding women Bishops. If you do careful and expanded biblical/ historic research - (I have found it is ALL about the exegesis and hermeneutics - the" then" (when and where written and to whom and under which circumstances) and the" now"- that which applied in the 1st century and spans the centuries and is to be applied in this 21st century in Christianity) - of bible rules/principles, the rightful role of women in the church becomes clear. (I'm not going to elaborate - anyone can research it.) This does NOT, however, allow for any "watering down" of God's Word which the jws spitefully and wrongfully accuse Christendom of. Thats why the Church of England can only go so far with the gay marriage issue as outlined in my last post.x Say a big Hi to your wife from me, and don't forget to "slip, slap and slop" - or is it "winter" in Sydney? (70 degrees instead of 130 lol!)
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Are You Interested In Religion Of Any Sort At This Point In Your Life?
by minimus inpersonally, i respect that everyone has choices to believe whatever they want to believe.
i have no interest in joining another religion....what about you?.
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Hi. iCeltic! I'm very surprised you met up with such Anglicans as you describe. I suppose the word "happy" is not quite right. I was answering bigmac's point. No-one is happy all the time, outside circs alter that of course. I suppose we have an inner joy and contentment, which is what I always wish each of you on here. I did meet one quite arrogant-ish bloke in charge of the Crooked Spire at Chesterfield, but he is known to have a bit of a problem. "Work on it" I thought to myself. Human nature. (Bad luck that you ran into such a character. We met the best Shepherd you could imagine). As regards being able to explain the bible/beliefs or understand the actions of Yahweh in the OT I would say that independent bible study with a good bible companion is the key. Everything changed with Jesus - who said for example that even harboring hatred equals murder. Don't think I didn't have some some hard questions too. I have spent hours and hours of study and research on points like this and much more - from the basics of Christianity, every sentence of every Creed which we recite - to why there are women vicars, etc etc. I have met no-one more bible/doctrine savvy than our Vicar, Richard. Most of the congregation, I think, don't feel its so important to be able to stand up to critics. Your relationship with God is a strikingly personal and almost tangible thing, precious and unique to each one, and it somehow transcends the need to want or have to debate about it. (Hard to explain). Some things, we even see differently to one another - eg, Eschatology of Christians etc. IT DOESN'T MATTER. The GOSPEL (Good News) is the same as it was 2000 years ago and that is the gel that binds us. I CANNOT agree with your view of how Anglicans view homosexuality/same sex marriage. The common view of the Church of England is that gay couples should marry and enjoy the financial benefits/security. I and my fellow worshippers would embrace ANYONE at our Church, ALL are welcome. No-one is to judge anyone else. HOWEVER, and this is the point of dissention perhaps. Marriage is one of the Holy Sacraments because it represents the relationship between Christ and his Church (St Paul) (Quotes Adam and Eve, the two becoming one flesh being a holy union).Whilst we love ALL people, the Exegesis/Hermeneutics of Homosexuality in the bible mean that today,it just cannot be openly "embraced" as the majority would wish.THAT is why there can be no same-sex church weddings - it is NOT a question of "No such weddings in our Churches!" The Church of England respect and welcome gay people and there are vicars, male and female, and also Bishops who are gay. BUT - a big BUT - If they are taking Holy Services (Baptism, Confirmation, Communion and Marriages) then they are called on to refrain from gay sexual practices.I just totally understand and agree with this, even if it is a big stumbling point for most. This rule doesn't however, apply to Readers, who can take all-age, morning worship services etc. What a difference in my attitude! I am a reformed character, I cannot give better testimony than this, as previously in the jw life, I hated gays.(Never expressed it though, of course). Now love is the dominant force in my life and I would make sure the first person at our Church to hug and welcome a new, openly gay worshipper, would be ME.xx