Posts by eyeuse2badub

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do you tell doc ur father doesn't want blood

by cobweb in

here's a hypothetical: you find your elderly jw father - a lifelong witness, unconscious in his home - you are alone with him.

you ring an ambulance.

at the hospital the doc says they need to give him a blood transfusion straight away or he'll die.

eyeuse2badub

I wouldn't say a word. If dad lived, it would be much easier to ask for his forgiveness than if he had died!

If he dies, at least you tried and he won't know the difference.

just saying!

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A very interesting conversation with my father today.

by joe134cd in

this is how the conversation went.

decide for your selves.. dad : joe if ever i need an operation i've told them i don't want blood.

not a drop.. joe : well what about blood fractions.

eyeuse2badub

Joe; Dad did you know that when you have a blood test (blood drawn to determine a health condition) that you are literally donating blood?

Dad; Yea but that 's different because i'm not giving my blood to help save someone's life.

Joe; Yes dad, that's true!

just saying!

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Biblical incidents that bothered me.

by EverApostate in

i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

perhaps this led to my awakening.

I have often wondered about and commented to my many jw friends and family about how jehober's bloodthirsty nature. Why was it necessary for hundreds of thousands of sheep and cattle to be slaughtered during a 7 day period when Solomon inaugurated the temple?

Of course we all know that this account is an extreme exaggeration , just like good old Solomon having 1,000 wives/concubines, but it goes to the core of why such an account is contained in the bible. Millions of gallons of blood poured out just to inaugurate a f**cking building that jehober later allowed to be destroyed?

just saying!

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A wave of momentum!

by stuckinarut2 in

it certainly has to be one of the most exciting times to live in as an awake ex witness!.

the wave of momentum we are part of as thousands awaken from the hold of the society is a joy to be a part of.

the internet helps us to see that we are not alone.

eyeuse2badub

Waving goodbye to the past life as a dub and riding the wave of freedom!

We can all now Rave about this Wave and the lives that it will Save and just to think that we all Gave to this departure from 'he Slave' and that we can now Behave like we're not heading for our Grave cause the road ahead we Pave for the fearless and the Brave!

Poetic justice for the WT!

just saying!

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The Unforgivable Sin (LOL)

by Cimarrona in

i remember my mother teaching me that a conscience was like an alarm in my head that would warn me when i'm on the verge of doing something immoral.

if i ignored the beeping, the batteries would run out.

i'd lose my moral compass.

eyeuse2badub

Unforgivable is allowing agonizing pain, untold suffering, devastating starvation, cruel torture, racial injustice, horrible birth defects, etc., etc. to be possible in the first place and then to allow it to continue IF YOU HAVE THE POWER TO STOP IT!

just saying!

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How Would You Console A Witness Who Has Lost A Loved One?

by minimus in

jw
friends

let’s say that you haven’t been around a kingdom hall in years and everyone knows you are not a “true believer “ anymore.

yet a tragedy strikes and you want to give a real heartfelt expression of your feelings— what would you say?

would you acknowledge the resurrection hope that the witnesses entertain or say something very different?.

eyeuse2badub

Since jw's love to call their religion "The Truth", why not tell them 'the truth'-- that one day they will also be joining their loved one--in death! RIP

just saying!

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Male Martyrs can expect to find 72 virgin maidens, what can female suicide bombers expect???

by James Mixon in

female martyrs will be chief of 72 virgins the fairest of the women, and plus she will made beautiful , happy and without jealousy .."whoopee" their paradise is worst than jw's paradise..

eyeuse2badub

Ah--fantasy is so fascinating. The wtbts creates even better fantasy than the 72 virgin fantasy. Did you know that; "Millions now living will NEVER die."?

just saying!

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Is the Bible truly inspired?

by MrRoboto in

so i was reading the book of daniel, starting with chapter 4 (nebuchadnezzar's famous tree chopping/banding dream where the 7 times is introduced) but i noticed that when you don't cherry pick verses and just read straight thru - it really seems like some children's book that was poorly written.

even though the borg says that this book as written by daniel, chapter 4 is clearly written by "king nebuchad·nezzar to all the peoples, nations, and language groups dwelling in all the earth" after the tree chopping business.

) of the rest of the chapters seem to be written in 3rd person (odd, if you are writing about your experiences).

eyeuse2badub

I'm sure that the bible's many mythological and wild stories are INSPIRING to many persons, the bible is not INSPIRED--at least not by some super human shy daddy!

And how I believed in all that bs--well it makes me wonder!

just saying!

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I wonder if their are any parents of theses children on here now .May 22 1994

by smiddy3 in

i know it could be a sensitive subject however we were all once firm believers and could have very well let one of our loved ones die due to what we once believed.. and not to be judgemental on what we would have done or did do in the past ,i sometime wonder if any of the parents or even one parent of the children of the may 22nd 1994 magazine of "youths who put god first " have now regretted their decision to let their children make this decision on their own.. after all these years i find it hard to believe that not one of them have no regrets to what happened to their child.. i can also accept that it would be extremely hard to admit that you allowed your child to make a decision to die on a belief you instilled in them that you no longer now believe in.

i think that would be very hard to live with and come to terms with.. if any of you are here my heart goes out to you because you have gone through hell and my thoughts/vibes are with you..

eyeuse2badub

This is the story of a really great young man and his father that didn't make it to the front cover of the Awake! magazine. However, their story belongs in this op!

I had a very good jw friend, who was also my golfing buddy as well. Our families were close. We shared vacations, boating, snow skiing, sports, dining, and many other good times. They had 4 children and we had 4 children also. His oldest son and my second son were best friends. My friend was a 'good brother' in the eyes of the congregation and came from a well established jw family. Sadly, his oldest son fell ill and after about 6 years of battling, he died from a blood disease in 1998 at the age of 19. He had been treated at several medical facilities during that time. The only known treatment, and one that has had tremendous success, for his disease was a blood transfusion, which he,as a 19 year old adult, refused.

My friend was never the same guy after his son died which I'm pretty sure is not that unusual. Often, for years afterword, he became very emotional around me especially when he saw my son or we talked about the 'good old days'.

One day, in November 2007, we were drinking cocktails and enjoying a football game on TV when he brought up the blood issue. At the time I was an elder. (My friend, though never and elder or ms, was a born-in jw.) He asked me, that since the wtbts had changed their stance on blood fractions AFTER his son died, did I think that the wtbts would ever allow blood transfusions?

I said, "No, I don't think that will ever change". (I really wondered what I'd do if I ever had to face losing a child)

He then asked "Why are blood fractions ok now?" (remember, it's 2007)

I said, "I don't know why there has been a change in the policy."

He said, "Blood fractions could have saved H------------(his son's) life."

I tried to ease his mind by telling him that there are no sure cures and then repeated the company line, "We need to wait on jehovah".

A couple of months later, my friend, a 'good brother', shot himself in the head and died.

just saying!

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Why I lost my religion

by Sour Grapes in

i was a jw for over 50 years and recently just stopped cold turkey going to the meetings.

years of sitting at the meetings with the boredom, the gloom and doom, repetition of doctrine, the gloom and doom, the fake love, the gloom and doom, the end being so close, do more - do more, just got to be too much for me to stomach.

i stopped praying to god and no longer thank god for the food before i eat.

eyeuse2badub

I was a JW for over 50 years and recently just stopped cold turkey going to the meetings. Years of sitting at the meetings with the boredom, the gloom and doom, repetition of doctrine, the gloom and doom, the fake love, the gloom and doom, the end being so close, do more - do more, just got to be too much for me to stomach.

Hey Sour,

Pretty much sums up my exact experience in my 60+ years as a jw. Totally agree with everything you posted. Unfortunately, I do attend some mind-numbing meetings with my wonderful, 'still-in', wife and my 90 year old m-i-l to appease them even though they know how I truly feel about the wtbts.

I've often tried reasoning with my wife and my M-I-L that thanking god for what he 'gives us' also implies that he doesn't listen to or doesn't care about those who don't receive those supposed things that god gives us! Same as thanking god when someone we know lives through a very horrible accident or survives life threatening disease. Doesn't that imply that god didn't listen to nor answer the prayers of those whose loved ones didn't survive?

Can't have it both ways-----or can you?

just saying!