This arrangement is nothing new. It's been going on for at least 8 years as I recall just before I resigned as an elder!
just saying!
september 11, 2017 to all congregations in the united states re: global assistance arrangement for the 2018 service year.
This arrangement is nothing new. It's been going on for at least 8 years as I recall just before I resigned as an elder!
just saying!
google news featured the following article.
will the world end on saturday?...then there were the followers of charles taze russell, a 19th-century preacher who looked for jesus’ return and the resurrection of the dead (christians only, please) in 1878 (and again in 1914).
they became jehovah’s witnesses, who now ring doorbells around the world (and are persecuted for it in some places — looking at you, russia).
Still amazes me how we fell for this bullshit for so many years as jw's! Always looking for a "sign" that the end was near! lol
just saying!
guy a and guy b were in bondage for a long time.
during this period, they have endured a lot of suffering and hardship.. somehow, they managed to escape from their captors.. guy a was very happy that he regained his freedom.
he put everything behind him, work hard and succeeded in building up a career.. 10 years later, he met guy b. he asked guy b what he has been doing for the past 10 years.. guy b replied :" i can't forget how we suffered while in bondage.
I believe that we all start out like guy B in the op. It definitely takes time to shed (for many of us a life time) the indoctrination of the wt. I know that i was one bitter sob when I first discovered ttatt. But as time and other rewarding facets of this real life have manifest themselves, I have gravitated to be more of guy A!
As guy A, I have come to appreciate that while life is finite, it can be filled with wonderful events and many happy days just by having a positive attitude and seeing the good in people and life!
just saying!
....why your child died, or you have cancer, or lost friends to a mudslide, tsunami, car accident, flood, tornado, hurricane or senseless act of violence.
why your child was molested, or you were molested, or you were slandered by an elder, or boe, or the gb.
why children die of starvation everyday, why faithful xians die every day, some mauled by dogs in field circus.
"Remember that jehober only protects us as an organization, not as individuals!"
What a f*cked up explanation by god's organization.
just saying!
as a jw i pretty much just went along with what was taught from the platform i didn't do any real bible study.
as a result, now that i am out of the org.
i find scriptures that blow my mind.. i am not sure how i would have reacted if someone had pointed this out to me when i was a jw but now i can't believe i've never noticed this before.
If jw's accept and acknowledge jesus as "a mighty god" (*which they do) then aren't they breaking the 1st of the 10 commandments "You MUST NOT HAVE ANY OTHER GODS besides me"?
just saying!
some events in the bible can be questionable but there are some stories the rings of truth, and why do i say that because they are so descriptive.
judges 3:22 "ehud an israelite judge, goes to the king of the moabites to pay annual tribute.
instead, he pulls out a dagger and stabs the sh--t out of the king while he is bathing, he literal caused the sh--t to flow and the dagger disappeared in the folds of the king's skin.
Why the f_ would the bible (god's holy word?) include the account recorded in judges 19 about a jewish levite cutting his concubine up into 12 pieces, basic mutilation of a human body? yes reading such heartwarming accounts as this truly helps one draw close to jehober, the god of all comfort!
just saying!
your thoughts on today's watchtower?.
can you explain?.
how can material possessions be used to strengthen our friendship with god?
I'm giving the wt and jehober the 'Goldfinger"! 007
just saying!
i remember having this feeling when i was younger that something was off when it came to meetings and the people there seemed just off.i had feelings like that when i was like 5 or 6 and i would say i was kinda dumb back then but still i had a feeling like that when i would not have that often.still to this day i dont know what got me to have that feeling i was just wanting to know if any had this feeling to and still cant remember what made your mind give you a red flag..
The things that really bothered me, even as a kid, was how the wt always tried to make some incident that happened thousands of years ago "foreshadow" some modern day event. How some bible character pictured a modern day "class" of people. How the freaky scriptures in revelation about pouring out bowls of god's anger were fulfilled by some stupid convention in the 1920's.
So the words that made me have "that feeling" that something was off were;
foreshadow-picture- fulfill- modern-day fulfillment- secondary fulfillment-anti-type-prophetic fulfillment.
These were cult words and phrases to me as an young and teenage kid!
just saying!
there is usually a metamorphosis that takes place for a person to leave the jehovah's witness religion.
most people do not just up and go simply because they realize this could not be the truth.
it often takes time.. for those that go to meetings or engage in the ministry, will you forever continue doing these things, knowing that it is all bs?
After being a "captive of a concept" for nearly 6 decades, I left mentally and emotionally about 8 years ago. I'm not even sure that I believe in god any longer. No fs and just a few meeting to appease my wife and mother in law. I've completely left the organization but have kept my foot in the door because of my family and friends.
I'm not at all concerned about "bringing reproach on the borg, but I am concerned about my family being scorned. Most of those that I call friends have been life-long friends, 50 plus years. I completely zone out when I do go to a meeting except when I hear some new bs and I mention it to my wife on the way home--in a kind and loving manner of course!
I still love the people, it's just the organization that I now detest. I know that others on this site have compared the wtbts to North Korea. I agree! Why don't the North Koreans just flee to the South? Their family and friends that's why.
just saying!
hello everyone ive been posting about this situation about my daughters and their jw mom so if u want to get a back story about whats going on you can check out my previous posts.. note- daughters are only 5 months old, and i live in the united states.. right now im typing up my court orders to present to the court but ive come to a road block.
i want to add reasons to why its not a good idea to have my daughters be baptized at a young age.. here is my rough draft -.
"age appropriate baptism – i wish that my daughters to be baptized at the legal age of 18 years old.
Baptizing young people was a major issue to me when I was an elder and asked to 'go over the questions' with a baptism candidate. I refused to 'go over questions' with anyone younger than 18 simple because persons younger than 18 are not capable of making "the most important decision of their life" as jw's like to phrase it.
During a very spirited elders meeting discussion, I asked my fellow elders to show me just one example, from the Bible, where children or even teenagers got baptized. On the other hand, I showed them several scriptures, from the Bible, where "men and women" came to be baptized. No mention in the Bible of children being baptized. I also had a problem with the stupid 100 question before baptism. Just don't recall Jesus or the disciples "going over the questions" with the "men and women" that wanted to be baptized.
just saying!