LeSabre,
If we're quibbling over names then fair enough, but the bible makes it clear which angel fell.
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
LeSabre,
If we're quibbling over names then fair enough, but the bible makes it clear which angel fell.
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
All of God's intelligent creations have free will, including the angels.
It was on his own accord that Satan became evil by going against the will of God.
“You were in Eden, the garden of God. Every kind of precious stone covered you: carnelian, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and emerald. Your mountings and settings were crafted in gold; they were prepared on the day you were created. You were an anointed guardian cherub, for I had appointed you. You were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the fiery stones. From the day you were
created you were blameless in your ways until wickedness was found in you.” Ezekiel 28:12-15 (HCSB)
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
Sab,
The Bible was completed 2,000 years ago so it is impossible to say what the most dangerous thing they have done in our time could be, many would have their own views and opinions, but I believe that we are in a spiritual war and they are the most dangerous foe we could have.
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
Matthew 4:1-11 Did Jesus recognize Satan as being real, or do you think he was talking to the evil from within? If you think the latter, keep in mind that Jesus was perfect and without evil.
What got Satan stripped of his power to enter a dead human and masquerade as a deceased person? Jude 9. When Satan wanted to fool the Israelites in the wilderness after Moses' death by entering Moses body and appearing to come back to life in the flesh, he was opposed by Michael. Only through casting a visual manifestation can they perpetrate fraud.
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
Sab,
I didn't understand your comment - assuming you don't believe that's fine, everyone has free will to believe what they want.
Satan comitted the first sin because he is described as the father of the lie
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
Sab,
How powerful are they?
Not as powerful as they used to be. Before the flood, they could materialize into flesh and blood human beings and procreate but this power was taken away shortly after they rebelled.
They do have the power to materialize, that is they use their shell energy to manipulate their appearance all done by the catalyst of pure thought. It's called casting and is what gives them their "arms and legs".
Consider more of their nature...
Matthew 12:43 "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it. “Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. “Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first."
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
Scooby-Doo,
I agree partly with what you said - it is not a sin to hold an opinion - it is a sin to act on it if it defies the will of the Creator.
In the beginning of Mankind’s creation, there was light - in that all of creation was in harmony with the Creator’s will. The son of the Dawn, the Shining Morning Star, was placed over the planet Earth and the human family that God's son the Word had created to inhabit the Earth. Satan was the first to commit sin.
“Shining morning star, how you have fallen from the heavens! You destroyer of nations,
you have been cut to the ground.” Isaiah 14:12 (HCSB)
Satan’s rebellion was a direct challenge against God's right to rule creation by righteousness. God accepted the challenge, and this is when the light was taken away from the world, because the first human subjects joined Satan in the rebellion. This was the beginning of the Spiritual War
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
Sab,
I don't understand the question.
Please explain.
i for my part do not believe there is a satan the devil.
he does not exist.
there is a creator, but no oposite number, no satan.
I believe in spirits and thus Satan
Given name: Lucifer
Other names: Dawn, Shining One, Satan the Devil (resister and slanderer)
Appointed position: Cherub, appointed over planet Earth prior to the Fall
Current position: Fallen angel, god of this system of things
Occupation: to prevent prophecy from being fulfilled and turn everyone away from God
and if so, would that prove an existence of evil-spirits (demons)?.
i have heard of a couple of stories of possession, or of jw's talking to spiritists and the spiritists having seen 2 men following the jw, either dressed all in black, or all in white, and very strong looking.
yet, i have never experienced any of it.. another experience that i heard is about a brother whose mom had super-natural strength, and tossed something really heavy.
Focariedu21
I am sorry to hear about what your family is going through, all I can say is to keep praying and pray out loud and if that doesn't work, find someone of faith who can pray for you.
A relative of mine was recently harassed by demons/converts and I was able to find someone to help take care of the situation.