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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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The Ark was the provision by which survivors of the great flood were guaranteed a seat on that vessel if they would only climb aboard. It was not large enough to save everyone because God knew that only eight would survive, but it was large enough to have saved more people that it did.

The book of Enoch contains more information about the fallen angels and the Nephilim. This book was left out of the Bible because scholars doubted its authenticity.

So why bring a global flood? Such an extreme reaction was justified because of the condition of the people.

Violence flourished and the Nephilim were more interested in being famous than in being peaceful.

In today’s society, we still do much of what was done in the pre-flood world - the building of cities, development of musical instruments, the forging of iron and bronze for the purpose of making tools and ornaments. These activities had their start long before God ended that ancient world.

The human population were in awe of the angels that materialized in front of them and considered them Gods. They built the cities of the day with the help of humans. When people started to spread out on the earth, the angels taught them how to live in communes. While the Nephilim were violent and agressive, the fallen angels mostly took on the role of guides and teachers for they already knew the makeup of creation. Prior to the global deluge, the earth was just as enterprising as it is today.

The fallen angels that came to Earth tried to alter God's plan. They hoped God would forgive and accept the path they took. They wanted nothing more than to remain in human form and continue living on Earth. They intermingled with humans forming cult worship. In God's eyes this was unforgivable - those on the fringe were offered salvation in Noah's ark and God would direct them to Noah, but if they did not accept the offer to be saved out of a dying world, they would perish at the flood.

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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Was it enough for Noah to have faith alone? No. If Noah had failed to follow God's instruction to build the Ark he would have died along with the others because he would not have shown works with his faith in deliverance. God asked Noah to build the ark because He wanted Noah and his family to show willingness to work towards their own salvation. It was the same in Egypt when God used Moses to lead the Israelites out of Egypt and across the wilderness into the Promised Land.

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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thetrueone,

I watched your video. It is humorous, and although limited in scope I do not have a problem with the information presented. I have never been dogmatic on my views concerning the year the flood happened. The Society says the flood happened in 2370 BC, others suggest 2348 BC which is what the video states.

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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Had to laugh at this one

forensic examiner of miracle theology

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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trueone,

I'm getting to it, but it's late...

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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I'll try to keep this short because it's late and I'm tired.

Noah and his family were the only faithful humans living at that particular time. The whole earth was corrupt. God had regrets about making mankind. In the final analysis, God could have wiped out the human race with Adam and Eve, but he did not. The Word, Christ, pointed out in Proverbs, that he found love and joy in the creation of man, even though we are imperfect. God would not let Satan hinder his will for the human race but neither could he go through thousands of human pairs to make it happen.

Adam’s line of flesh is under a covenant with God. When the fallen angels materialized, they took on flesh, but it did not come under the covenant because it was not of the Adamic line of descent. This was an automatic death sentence for the children of the angelic fathers and mothers. They had no covenant with God. It was like being born out of wedlock and not knowing who your father was. The Nephilim were considered outcasts in God's eyes, something he felt should never have happened.

Genesis 6:3: "Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."

The calling on the name of God in the days of Enoch was not considered good because some of those fallen angels still considered themselves part of the Holy Family despite the fact they had left their duties and forsook their dwelling place (Jude 6). Those fallen angels developed lustful intentions for both men and women companions and took them as partners (Genesis 4:26) Perhaps they thought if humans called upon God's name on their behalf, God might accept their comingling and breeding among the human race. God did not want them as humans. If he had, he would have granted them the right to become humans but they lowered themselves in stature to become less than what they were. God forced the demons to return by flooding the Earth. The flood served as a dual purpose. It was also a judgment for those living on the planet.

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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thetrueone,

concerning your other question, blood stops circulating at death and bacteria that is present in the gut and normally harmless will start to break through the stomach wall lining.

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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Yan, there was a time when I did question it for a while. I'm fairly open minded despite what you may think.

What would make me question the validity? Right now, nothing.

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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thetrueone,

My views on life after death might seem unorthodox but I believe that when we die, we survive the death of our fleshly vessel and are transformed by Christ.

I recently watched a documenatry on near death experiences. Many of the people interviewed said they felt as if they were floating and could see their own body while they were being operated on.

I believe that what is inside of us, the essence of self, is not necessarily something you could point to on an X-ray or CAT scan, and say look, there's the consciounsess, I think it is a form of energy that cannot yet be discerned.

Yes, I speculate but that's why we're all here for one reason or another, to speculate and ponder and there's nothing wrong with that, I'm not pushing my beliefs onto anyone.

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Applying Math, Physics, Archeology to THE STORY OF NOAH

by Terry in

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Yan,

In response to your question re: post 658

What would be necessary to convince you that the flood account may not be literal and may not have happened as described in the Bible?

There is no easy answer to this question. The global deluge was not just another event that had no importance. It changed everything about the world at that time. That's why it's not so easy to dismiss.

Consider 2 Peter 3:5,6: "But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed."

What you're asking me to do is dismiss everything Peter said about the flood because you don't agree the flood happened.

If I do this, I might as well dismiss everything that I cannot grasp because I don't understand it. It doesn't work that way.

At that time, the ark was the delivery vessel to the new world. The shedding of the old ways were symbolized by Noah and his family coming into the new world, almost as if they had entered the Millennium, because with just 8 survivors there was no evil in the world.

Because sin is inherent in mankind from their youth up, it eventually appeared in the children born to Noah and his sons. In effect, this typfies what will happen in the Millenium as new offspring are born and grow to maturity. If they practice sin wilfully, even after being given sufficient time to change their ways, there is no place for them.

At the end of the Millennium, everyone will be like Noah and his family, knowing God's laws and living them. God knows that time can dull the senses which is why there will be another test at the end of the Millenium. A 1,000 years can make a person overconfident.