ziddina,
sounds like you were in an emotional frenzy writing that.
ziddina,
sounds like you were in an emotional frenzy writing that.
elderlite,
I see nothing of substance in what you're saying so let's leave it at that.
A nobody in the real world of science...
http://www.answersingenesis.org/events/bio.aspx?Speaker_ID=20
Like most people, Dr. Mortenson grew up in an education system that taught evolution as fact. During his first year at the University of Minnesota (where he majored in math) and shortly after becoming a Christian, he began to see the fallacy of the idea of millions of years of evolution.
With a Ph.D. in the history of geology from the University of Coventry in England and an M.Div. from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Chicago, Dr. Mortenson has lectured on the creation-evolution controversy in 21 countries since the late 1970s. He has spoken in homes, churches, schools (primary, middle and secondary), secular universities, Bible colleges and seminaries. Several of his popular lectures have been produced as DVDs and as TV programs. He has also participated in seven formal debates with Ph.D. evolutionary scientists in secular venues in four countries.
He is the author of numerous magazine and journal articles and several book chapters. The revised version of his PhD thesis was published as The Great Turning Point: the Church's Catastrophic Mistake on Geology--Before Darwin (Master Books, 2004). With a deep burden for seminary professors and students, he co-edited and contributed two chapters to the scholarly 14-author book, Coming to Grips with Genesis: Biblical Authority and the Age of the Earth (Master Books, 2008).
He is a member of the Evangelical Theological Society, has presented six creation-related papers at ETS annual meetings, and spear-headed the formation of the "Creation Consultation" sessions at the ETS annual meeting beginning in 2008. He has also helped to lead four by-invitation-only 7-day rafts trips down the Colorado River through Grand Canyon for seminary and Bible College professors and other key Christian leaders.
Still, it takes 8-9 years to get a PHd does it not? He must have learned something during those years. And 10 minutes spent researching his material does not make you qualified to do a peer review.
Now you're being sarcastic elderlite, I have no need to repeat myself.
This is speculation on my part, but consider the passage in the scriptures where Jesus had gone without food for 40 days and 40 nights. He still lived, sustained by God's spirit. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's something to consider.
thetrueone,
The Bible does not give all the specifics concerning the preflood era.
All things written beforehand were written as pieces for the jigsaw puzzle called the Bible.
These pieces are omitted unless they are essential to our learning process of understanding the complete truth.
Speaking or putting thoughts on tablets was no less a natural progression of God's purpose for mankind.
The Word does not mention every time someone went to the outhouse, but we know that the natural order provided for such things.
Elderlite,
It is apparent that nothing could convince you of something you have made your mind up about, that is why you tear holes in things you know little about. Your agenda is not one of openess but one of pulling down.
When you get your doctorate then maybe I'll pay attention to what you have to say, in the meantime I'll go with Dr. Terry Mortenson's findings.
thetrueone,
Since you're so fond of cut and paste...
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/universality-of-flood
Noah’s Flood is critically important to the question of the age of the earth, as explains Dr. Terry Mortenson in his article on p. 62. For over eighteen centuries virtually all Christians understood Genesis to recount a universal Flood that completely covered the whole earth, leaving no dry land anywhere at the height of the event. However, during the past 200 years many Christians have been swayed by secular ideas and have abandoned the clear hermeneutic of Scripture for belief that the Flood was local and covered only the Mesopotamian Valley of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers (the area of modern-day Iraq). But such a view cannot stand under the careful scrutiny of Genesis 6–9 . Consider these points.
One of the most important biblical arguments for a universal (i.e., global) Flood is the statement of Genesis 7:19–20 , which says, “ And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills that were under the whole heaven were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered ” (KJV).
You do need not be a professional scientist to realize the tremendous implications of these biblical statements. If the highest mountains 1 were covered with water, the Flood would have been global in geographical extent, for water must seek its own level—and it must do so quickly!
The phrase “ fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail ” does not mean that the Flood was only 15 cubits deep, for the phrase is qualified by the one which immediately follows: “ and the mountains were covered. ”
Because Genesis 6:15 tells us that the height of the Ark was 30 cubits, nearly all commentators agree that the phrase “fifteen cubits” in 7:20 must refer to how deep the Ark sank into the water when it was fully laden. Such information adds further support for a universal Flood, because it tells us that the Flood “prevailed” over the tops of the highest mountains to a depth of at least 15 cubits. If the Flood had not covered the mountains by at least such a depth, the Ark could not have floated over them during the five months in which the waters “prevailed” upon the earth.
Now, if you think you know better than Dr. Terry Mortenson I'd be interested in your views.