Shamus
I cannot provide evidence from my own words, I'm not a scientist, I wasn't there.
The research is out there, of course if you don't want to look at the link...
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Elderlite,
I'm trying to find it. This information was told to me by a pioneer. It was a TV interview with a warlock, can't remember how long ago, but he said that the demons are angry they lost their children at the flood so that was why they wanted to get as many JW youth out the religion as possible.
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Shamus,
I'm more open minded than you give me credit for :)
Have a look at this and tell me what you think
Yonaguni underwater structures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4KQJCFPsOLE#!
I can't figure out how to insert hyperlinks, the button for it is greyed out.
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truthseeker
Since no one has bothered to check this site out, I'll post a little here
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
Two Vastly Different World Views, with Vastly Different Conclusions:Let's not kid ourselves. What this is all about is whether or not the Old Testament book of Genesis (along with the rest of the Old Testament, and the New Testament) is an accurate account of what happened around 4600 years ago with regard to a worldwide flood, and about 6000 years ago, with regard to Creation itself.
Was virtually all of the sedimentary strata laid down by a single Worldwide Deluge in a short amount of time, or is the evolutionary scenario of slow change, acting over eons of T-I-M-E, and the associated Geological Time Chart (with its millions and millions of years) a more accurate account of Earth history?
Let's Look at the Evidence:
The following are 18 Evidences of either massive flooding and erosion, extremely rapid layering of strata, or direct evidence of a Worldwide Flood. Such evidences are found in numerous places on virtually every Continent.TheFossils Themselves:
Fossils don't form on lake bottoms today, nor are they found forming on the bottom of the sea.15 Instead, they normally only form when a plant or animal is buried soon after it dies. 16 Therefore, the fossils themselves are evidence of a catastrophe such as a flood or volcanic eruption that took place in the past. See also Rapid Petrification of Wood, by Andrew Snelling.More Fossil Whales:
"In bogs covering glacial deposits in Michigan, skeletons of two whales were discovered ... How did they come to Michigan in the post-glacial epoch? Glaciers do not carry whales, and the ice sheet would not have brought them to the middle of a continent... Was there a sea in Michigan after the glacial epoch, only a few thousand years ago?" 48
"Bones of Whale have been found 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario; a skeleton of another whale was discovered in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level; and still another in the Montreal-Quebec area, about 600 feet above sea level..." 48
Marine Fossils In The Mountains: In Mountains all over the world one can find sea shells and other marine fossils. These include the Sierras, the Swiss Alps, the Himalayas and many more.49,50,51,52,53 For more on this subject see the following video 54 by Dr. Walter Brown.
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Shamus,
I told you I made a mistake by saying laws of physics, I meant laws of gravity. A Freudian slip.
No, I do not believe the tale of Noah was just a tale. Jesus made reference to it and so did the Apostle Peter. I don't believe the earth was made in six days, but I stand by my faith in the Flood account.
I may be ridiculed for it, already am to be honest, but that's OK with me.
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I meant to say the laws of gravity in an earlier post, not physics, gravity is what keeps us anchored to this planet.
You all say the Flood could not have happened and there's no way Noah's ark could have withstood the atmospheric pressure.
When Jesus walked on water, he manipulated his body weight with the aid of God's holy spirit. God followed his own laws in helping him become weightless.
There is no mystery in seemingly impossible feats if you understand that God placed all things to work under his laws
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Sorry, I should have rephrased it better, I meant the law of gravity, not physics, my mistake.
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ha ha,
I think two of Noah's carrier pigeons probably died before the third one came back with an olive leaf.
These structures aren't just near Japan, I have seen other pictures of underwater structures, these were just examples. I don't think the Earth then looked as it did now, but that's just my opinion.
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Evidence for the flood
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scientific_evidence_for_a_worldwide_flood.htm
I'm not going to post the whole article here. Have a look and decide for yourself.
I have to ask why are we so hell bent on proving our point? Perhaps it's because those who believe see it as a pivotal moment in human history rather than just another disaster.
The scriptures make many references to the flood, it's not all Genesis.
You all saw what happened at Fukushima - the tsunami destroyed everything in its wake. How much more so with a flood. What evidence would you expect to find. Undwerwater cities?
http://www.squidoo.com/ancientcivilizations
Underwater Structures Show Strong Evidence Of A Past Civilization On A Global Scale
The strangest of all underwater finds concerns the monuments of Yonaguni Jima discovered off the coast of Japan(pic on left is called "the turtle")...which were hotly debated at one time but more and more evidence has been accumulating suggesting that the structures are actually man made(cut right into the bedrock like many other structures found).
Most alternative archeological researchers seem to believe that there was a technologically advanced civilization who built their structures in stone that existed at the end of the last ice age, when the sea levels were over a hundred feet lower than today. Since the biggest cities are always built on the coast, the place to look for ancient cities would be the levels at which the ocean used to be at before all the ice melted(approx 9500 BC).
However, even without taking such extreme dating ideas seriously we can see that there are definitely underwater ruins strewn all over the planet. Since the ocean levels are thought to have gone up and done with mini ice ages, it may be that we had civilization earlier than we thought%u2026just not as early as some like to believe.http://www.morien-institute.org/imk4.html
The controversy that has erupted in archæological circles around the world since the discovery of an enigmatic
structure, described by some as 'pyramid-like', at Iseki Point, just off the coast of the southernmost
Japanese island of Yonaguni-Jima, some 15 years ago, looks set to get even hotter as news
emerges that the so-called 'Yonaguni Monument' is just one of a number of
underwater megalithic structures in a 'complex' stretching for
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3,324 page views, Terry would be proud :)
The strangest of all underwater finds concerns the monuments of Yonaguni Jima discovered off the coast of Japan(pic on left is called "the turtle")...which were hotly debated at one time but more and more evidence has been accumulating suggesting that the structures are actually man made(cut right into the bedrock like many other structures found).