hi, i'm newly awakened and just needing reassurance that the wt is indeed a mind-control cult.
i have two lovely children (under 5) and a husband who is currently asleep..
Oogie: welcome to the club. I know what you are going through. I am still working through the guilt.
It helps to know what we are dealing with. I was always told "baby steps".
I thiink once we get away from the regular programming it is easier to think for ourselves.
Missy
i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
Maeve:
Thank you for your well thought out and encouraging words. I see you understand what I am going through.
I find myself rethinking everything I believe. I do not want to fall into another trap where I am blindly following someone.
How can a person trust anything once they found out everything they believed in was false? How can they ever trust themselves?
I know intellectually that Satan is not leading me.... but emotionally I still hear all the "counsel about Satan roaring like a lion".
I remember being told how happy we make Satan when we don 't follow Jehovah'S ORGANIZATION.
You are right I need to find my own truth.
I hope things are going well for you. I always enjoy your posts.
i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
Smiddy- I know first hand that the WT wants to keep things quiet. I had been the told that things have changed since my experience in the 70s. I was very disturbed when I read about the Conti case. I realized that nothing had changed, that the elder's main concern was protecting the Org.
i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
Xyz: Good point.
But in order for Jeovah to protect me I need his spirit which is found at the meetings. Which why she was concerned. And if I am not following Jehovah's direction through the f&ds , then I can't expect his protection. I was warned to stay away from the internet and I didn't. So there for I exposed myself to satan and the demons.
See how that works?
ok we know it's a stupid mind control cult but sometimes to see it in the flesh is just a slap in the face.... i lent my brother karen armstrongs the bible - the biography, which is a great book to help understand the bible, i have read it twice and it was very informative.
i had hoped my brother may find it likewise and actually learn something.. not a frickin chance.
he gave the book back today with an agitated tone and told me it was crap and that he didnt want me to show him any other books, he had got to page 21, so had only managed the introduction and 12 pages of chapter 1 of a book with 229 pages (300+ if you include glossary and appendix).. inside were some postit noted with notations he'd written about dates quoting from insight volumes and scripture inspired to "correct" the dates in the book for events and dates of reigns like manassahs and hezekiahs.. basically he got mad that the book disagreed with what his drone cult brain read in the wts volumes and refused to read any further.. ffs he didnt even look at another outside source at all, just assumed the book was making error after error on dates and got annoyed.. i am shocked he could be just that dumb.
I agree with xyz. It is very scary to start to question everything you ever learned.
There are some threads here I have not opened because I know I am not ready yet. Some of the things I never even heard about before.....607 bc being the wrong date is one. Sorry not ready yet. Just getting used to the thought that I was in a cult all my life.
Just admitted to myself that the flood might not be literal.
Give your brother a break...it is a lot to take in.
Missy
i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
I TTAT: I know -right! Tell me about it and we'll compare notes. Her whole additude changed. I had to watch every word i said.
I guess i thought since we went through so much together--and she knew my background she would hear me out. There was a time when she would have. I was completly taken aback when she started asking about where I found it instead of what i found.
I felt so
disconnected
from her.
i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
Thank you everyone for the links.
Snare: I dont think I can be honest with her. She was shutting down. She told me that the only way she can make it through the day is by meditating on the "new order and paradise. Otherwise everything would drag her down.
She did text me last week to tell me she missed me at the meeting.
I find myself at a crossroads. I feel like I have a split personality.
I never in my life would have said I was in a cult. I would have been the first t o deny it.
But after reading and following some of the links I am having a hard time denying it.
Then when my friend said with a straight face that the deviI was directing me to those news reports to weaken me- I actually heard how wrong that sounded. She was a grown woman and she absolutly believed what she was saying.
ok we know it's a stupid mind control cult but sometimes to see it in the flesh is just a slap in the face.... i lent my brother karen armstrongs the bible - the biography, which is a great book to help understand the bible, i have read it twice and it was very informative.
i had hoped my brother may find it likewise and actually learn something.. not a frickin chance.
he gave the book back today with an agitated tone and told me it was crap and that he didnt want me to show him any other books, he had got to page 21, so had only managed the introduction and 12 pages of chapter 1 of a book with 229 pages (300+ if you include glossary and appendix).. inside were some postit noted with notations he'd written about dates quoting from insight volumes and scripture inspired to "correct" the dates in the book for events and dates of reigns like manassahs and hezekiahs.. basically he got mad that the book disagreed with what his drone cult brain read in the wts volumes and refused to read any further.. ffs he didnt even look at another outside source at all, just assumed the book was making error after error on dates and got annoyed.. i am shocked he could be just that dumb.
JAM: First Santa now the WT... is nothing sacred? Lol
i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
G101. Got it. Thanks. Will reply soon. I am school shopping for my son.
i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.
the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .
( i was 't expecting that reaction.
Outlaw!!! Lol. I got one of your special posts. I am honored.
Quiet one:im afraid to bring it up again. I think i have her spidey senses tingling. I am thinking of going to the meeting tomorrow in case she was getting suspicious.
Another sister called me last week to invite me to the meeting. She is an elders wife and used to study with me. Im wondering if my friend called her.
