I hate to be preachy but perhaps you could become better aquainted with other ideas of god, duty, action and love. Not many westerners take the time to learn about Krishna, but it is well worth the small effort. Here is a copy of Bhagavhad Gita online, which is a 700 vs poem. Not long, really, and shorter then the Bible or a watchtower book:
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Is God out there?
by digderidoo ini have left the org for many years now.
sometimes i think jehovah is there, sometimes i think there cannot be a god for all the suffering that we see happening in this world.. just lately i have been wondering if god really exists, is the bible his word or is it all just a load of b*****ks.
i have looked into other religions, buddhism for instance, i believe we are spiritual, but is there a need for a god?
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While A Witness, Did You Ever Date A "Worldly Person"?
by minimus inhow many here ever dated a "worldly" person, while still a jw?
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gitasatsangha
I dated witness girls and non-witness girls. First time I was caught and I had to break it up. The whole way my parents had me end it was sadistic on their part. Anyway, that is their burden.
After that I got creative. I had a witness girlfriend that I did regular approved stuff with, as a cover for whoever I was dating in the world. No one was the wiser. It wasn't a nice thing to do, and probably caused me to do some things later in life which were wrong, but it was a strategy for dealing with an authoritarian regime.
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We should all forget the Watchtower and the memories it has imprinted on our minds. Only then shall we be free from that Organization.
in my best Arlo Guthrie: You got a lotta damn gall telling people what they should and sohuldn't forget.
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Apocryphal Books of the Bible
by nativenyr23 inwas watching a history channel program last night (yeah, i'm a history channel geek!
) and was introduced for the first time in my life to the apocryphal books of the bible?!?!?!?!?
omg....fascinating.
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gitasatsangha
There have been differing canon's of the bible depending on who was doing the canonizing. But another problem comes from the discrepency between the Greek and Hebrew Septuiagints.
The Greek Septuagint has these "extra" books: Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, and 1st and 2nd Maccabees. Some of the other books normally found in the Hebrew Septuagint have more chapters/vs then in the Hebrew Sept..
There are many possible books to the Christian apocrypha. One of the more interesting is the Gospel of Thomas, a work referred to often by the Gnostics in their time (and probably still by Gnostic Hermetic traditions even now?). There is a copy of it at http://www.gospelthomas.com/
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To Sword of Jah
by NaruNaruChan injust a question, but how is it that you can post on a site with apostates on it when we all know if the society caught you that you would be reproved and shunned like us?
also, don't you think it directly interferes with your relationship to jehovah to blatantly disregard counsel given that "bad associations spoil useful habits"?
also, the society recommends that you shun us, so why aren't you?
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gitasatsangha
Why try and pick a fight with him? You never know what might be going on in someone's head. It could well be a person might "Act out", as in the case of at least one other poster here, in defence of the WTBS, while actually trying to piece it all together for themselves. We all know what the Kingdom Ministy says, but why quote it at the Dubs? They know it too, and the truth is, they need to be helped to realize it is ok to bend JW edicts. That is important, because it helps people think for themselves.
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gitasatsangha
Besides, cocoanut cream pies just FEEL better.
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Semisequitur Responce for Nonstarting Topic
Bats listen to themselves, quite literaly, or they wouldn't get around very well. In addition to bats, echo location is used by whales, porpoises, dolphins, seals, shrews, tenrecs, oil birds, and several species of swiftlets.
It is the small, insectivorous bats, the Microchiroptera, that have highly developed echo location abilities which account for 70% of all bat species.
The elaborately designed noses of echo locating bats is somehow connected to their sonar abilities but scientists have not yet figured out the exact function.
Bats fly with their mouths open, not to look vicious, but because they are echo locating. Almost all echo locating calls are out of the range of human hearing. Humans can hear sounds up to 20 kilohertz but bats echo locate in the 9 - 200 kilohertz range. Most of the squeaks and squawks bats make in their roost is not echo location.
If human ears could hear the echo locating of bats our nights would be very noisy. Some bats echo locate as if "shouting", operating at loud as 110 decibels or the loudness of a smoke alarm. Others echo locate by "whispering" at 60 decibels, the level of normal human conversation.
Bats are the only major predators of night-flying insects including mosquitoes. One bat may eat up to 3,000 insects in a night.
Seventy percent of bat species eat only insects and a bat can catch six hundred mosquitoes in an hour. How many can a Wue light bug zapper kill in the same time?
Some bats capture insects in mid-flight while others glean them off the surfaces of leaves and trees. Their echo location abilities is designed to suit its method of feeding.
The Zotzil Maya take their name from the Maya word for "bat", zotz. They live in "zotzil ha"(bat's house) and their capital in Chiapas, Mexico is Zinacantan, Nauatl for "place of the bat".
The Maya worshipped a bat god "ZOTZILHA CHAMALCAN" who had a human body but the head and wings of a bat. He appears in glyphs on alters, pottery,and stone pillars. People as blood thirsty as the ancient Maya also admire the vampire bat's natural gift and couldn't resist deifying an animal whose tastes resembled their own.
The emblem glyph for the ancient Maya city of Copan includes the head of a leaf-nosed bat.
One of the Spanish chronicles tells of Atahualpa, the Inca ruler, wearing a bat-skin shirt and cape which was softer than silk When asked what his clothes were made of, he replied that they came from the "birds" that fly at night.
The Toba from the Gran Chaco region of northern Argentina tells of their very first leader - a hero bat or bat-man who taught people all they needed to know as human beings.
The ancient Egyptians prized bat parts which were used as medicines for a variety of diseases.
A bat is on the coat of arms of Barcelona and is on the coat of arms of Valencia's capital.
The Chinese word for bat is pronounced just as the word for happiness,"fu". Bat motif is prevalent on Chinese works of art. They regard the bat as a symbol for prosperity, good fortune, long life, health, and happiness.
References to bats often occur in Chinese conversation relating marriage ceremonies and other celebrations.
In one of Aesop's fables, a weasel snares a bat and pauses to explain that it only feeds on birds. The wily bat informs the weasel that it is a mouse. Later on the bat is captured by another weasel who tells him that it only preys on mice so the bat swears to the weasel that he is a bird.
A Hopi legend tells of a bat created out of dust and spirit who saves a maiden from being raped.
European cultures tend to link bats with evil. In "Macbeth" the three witches season their pot with "wool of bat" and during the Middle Ages they were called "witches' birds".
Bats are very dangerous so if you see them flying about, where people are swimming, you must stop listening to yourself. You must then shout, at the top of your lungs "¡Quidados Zizilos!"
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Have I lost myself?
by icebuddy inmy name is tom and i was looking for some jw's to talk to.
have i lost myself on this web page?
love,.
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gitasatsangha
Hello Icebuddy. A fellow newbie loves company.
-GitaSatsangha
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Dress for Memorial
by goofy inok, advice please.
i just bought a red layered dress.
i don't know how to explain it completely, but it is a red chiffon and a copy of a very famous german styler.
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gitasatsangha
Wear a lobster bib so you won't get cracker crumbs or Gallo on you while partaking of the emblems.
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Did Jesus use real wine or grape juice at the last supper?
by Robotnomore ini was talking to a friend and they said that jesus didn't use real wine because he would not put any alcohol in his body.
she said that when jesus was hanging on the cross and they offered him the pain killer and he refused proves that he wouldn't take alcohol.
so in their communion at their church they use grape juice instead of wine.
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gitasatsangha
I may be wrong on this, but I don't believe wine or beer for that matter, was considered fermented, in the same way that bread was considered fermented. don't really know why i'm on this topic. christianity is so much hair-splitting.