I didn't know about the IBM thing. I think they have at least one HPUX box there, or did back in 99.
gitasatsangha
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Watchtower Computer Engineering Research Lab
by VM44 indoes anyone know anything about the watchtower's computer engineering research lab?.
there was one once, when they designed and built their own system for composing and formatting text.. where was it?
how many people staffed the facility?.
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Watchtower Computer Engineering Research Lab
by VM44 indoes anyone know anything about the watchtower's computer engineering research lab?.
there was one once, when they designed and built their own system for composing and formatting text.. where was it?
how many people staffed the facility?.
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gitasatsangha
I like bashing the Society as much as anyone, but MEPS was pretty cool, for its time. If it wasn't ahead of it's time, it was definately at the edge.
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Watchtower Computer Engineering Research Lab
by VM44 indoes anyone know anything about the watchtower's computer engineering research lab?.
there was one once, when they designed and built their own system for composing and formatting text.. where was it?
how many people staffed the facility?.
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gitasatsangha
Randy,
I've known some NASA people, esp the old NASA, and this guy looked like a NASA guy (they do have an aura or something,, it might be the hair), so we must be talking about the same man.
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Watchtower Computer Engineering Research Lab
by VM44 indoes anyone know anything about the watchtower's computer engineering research lab?.
there was one once, when they designed and built their own system for composing and formatting text.. where was it?
how many people staffed the facility?.
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gitasatsangha
A misunderstanding is that this program translates.... It does not, just typesets diffrent character from diffrent languages?!*$%^&*&%@#
That misunderstanding annoyed the programmers a great deal. I feel sorry for those sons of bitches. They could have been making megabucks on the outside working for Apple, Adobe, Micro$oft, Lotus. This was the time frame when desktop publishing was the biggest development in computers.
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Watchtower Computer Engineering Research Lab
by VM44 indoes anyone know anything about the watchtower's computer engineering research lab?.
there was one once, when they designed and built their own system for composing and formatting text.. where was it?
how many people staffed the facility?.
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gitasatsangha
Yeah, I had a guy that worked there let me in oh back in 89 or so. I got to talk to the man who was in charge of the operation. .
It did indeed exist. At the time the WTS was under ban in Kenya, and they were developing a very cool secret press setup. They used a laptop (with no markings that I could recall.. and this was in 88.. there were no whitebox laptops to my knowledge so they were probably deliberately making them generic), with a small laser printer (remember the year), packed together so that the whole tihng could fit in a small suitcase. I guess someone else carried the suitcase full of reams of paper. Anyway they used that setup for awhile. They were ahead of the curve, esp when dealing with third world countries.
While I remember the name of the guy that let me see the whole thing, I didn't remember the name of the guy in charge. I was 16 and I was desperately trying to get into the pants of this girl who was on the same trip with me, so the other details of that boring ass trip were mostly forgotten.
And no, I didn't score. Hell not even first base.
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I need the full page illustration of possible impalement
by Mulan inin the large jw reference bible (page 1578) is a drawing of a man dying on an upright pole.
in penton's book, apocalypse delayed, there is a reference on page 342 to that illustration, mentioning it is only one of 16 drawings, 13 of which show a cross beam.
(another deceitful attempt by jw's).
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gitasatsangha
Yeah a bunch of really fervent Catholics in the Phillipines reenact Crucifixtion by getting crucified for a few hours. It's a big tourist draw. Just gimme dat ole time religion! I hear there are also Flagellants still practicing in the Phillipines too.
In America they keep that sort of thing locked away in the suburban bedrooms with the leather masks and the odd lotions where it belongs!
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I need the full page illustration of possible impalement
by Mulan inin the large jw reference bible (page 1578) is a drawing of a man dying on an upright pole.
in penton's book, apocalypse delayed, there is a reference on page 342 to that illustration, mentioning it is only one of 16 drawings, 13 of which show a cross beam.
(another deceitful attempt by jw's).
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gitasatsangha
If he was impaled, then would not a bone from his body be broken from this?
No bone of his should have been broken according to prophecy and tale
Not necessarilly. In fact it would seem more likely that if he were nailed through the feet, wrists, or palms that there would be a far greater chance of some fracture. The Fillipinos who reenact crucifixtion are very careful in this regard, because of the risk of doing just that, so it must have happened commonly. The Fillipinos also use smaller diameter nails made out of surgical steel, not the much wider crudely forged iron nails the Romans would have used. (They also don't hang the hands higher then the head, and give the feet support, as they are there to do,, well whatever they are doing (?!), certainly not dying of slow asphyxiation)
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I need the full page illustration of possible impalement
by Mulan inin the large jw reference bible (page 1578) is a drawing of a man dying on an upright pole.
in penton's book, apocalypse delayed, there is a reference on page 342 to that illustration, mentioning it is only one of 16 drawings, 13 of which show a cross beam.
(another deceitful attempt by jw's).
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gitasatsangha
They seem to be open to the possibility that Jesus was impaled through his body:
**w69, 10/15, pp. 639-640**
The Gospel writers state only that he was impaled or fastened to the stake. They do not say in their accounts of the impaling how this was accomplished, whether by Christ?s being transfixed with the stake forced through part of the body, by being tied to the pole or by being nailed to it.?Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:25; Luke 23:33; John 19:18.
They tend to completely forget John 20:-24-28. Admittedly John is the most problematic of the gospels, but you would think that old men with nothing to do but crank out JW books in 1969, would have known better.
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I need the full page illustration of possible impalement
by Mulan inin the large jw reference bible (page 1578) is a drawing of a man dying on an upright pole.
in penton's book, apocalypse delayed, there is a reference on page 342 to that illustration, mentioning it is only one of 16 drawings, 13 of which show a cross beam.
(another deceitful attempt by jw's).
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gitasatsangha
I wonder if they thought about moving in that direction, Leolaia. If they had started to show images of Jesus symbollically raped, I think they would have been too obvious in their intent to push him to the wayside in their own mythology/theology.
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I need the full page illustration of possible impalement
by Mulan inin the large jw reference bible (page 1578) is a drawing of a man dying on an upright pole.
in penton's book, apocalypse delayed, there is a reference on page 342 to that illustration, mentioning it is only one of 16 drawings, 13 of which show a cross beam.
(another deceitful attempt by jw's).
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gitasatsangha
Symbollically the Cross has very strong metaphorical meanings, of sacrifice, change, transormation, even coitus. However the most important thing is that the Witnesses are deceiving their followers and alienating them from the mainstream for no good reason.