Well, I was a bobbing bobcat, but the more times I did this the worser I got.
Hmph. Maybe I do need a cup of coffee.
bebu
Well, I was a bobbing bobcat, but the more times I did this the worser I got.
Hmph. Maybe I do need a cup of coffee.
bebu
unbelieveable!!!.
well, that was unbelieveable!!
just after i posted our latest ordeal with our jw neighbors, and their jw friends pulling down our frosty, egging our house and car, we got a knock on the door!
I love this!
Thanks for sharing this, and hats off to your husband for handling the situation so well. I have a lot of respect for that JW to apologize to someone he thought was an apostate. Woohoo!
bebu
i'm starting to get the hang of this video thing.
i'm really happy with this video on the practice of shunning, as experienced by me on both sides of the fence.
i'm not angry - i'm just letting the facts be known.
An excellent video, just like the former one. Your delivery is superb.
I enjoyed your point that harassment/being cut off hardly helps repair beliefs. Excellent statement about integrity too.
bebu
dear friends,.
the following is from notes derived from in search of christian freedom, by ray franz.
the chapter is "from house to house.
- Uphold and argue for a "minority opinion" within the GB, you're still the cream of the crop;
- Only hint at the same opinion anywhere else and in no time you are "no longer one of JWs"...
So true!!
bebu
one of my employee's is jw.
actually, i have been blessed with 2 of them but one of them was raised a jw and the other was recently baptized and has been studying for 2 yrs.. both of these young ladies are very pleasant to be around and i truly enjoy being around them.
the young woman who has been raised jw is a peach.
Very interesting, onlycurious.
Funny, we are very similar! I"ve also never set foot in a KH, and I'm also a Christian who originally came here to figure out what was going on in my JW friend's head. This board has helped me a LOT. Oh, I'm in WA state too! PM me and tell me which city you're in!
I had a very good conversation going for a while with my JW friend, but then I backed off because she began to go thru a very painful divorce, and I didn't want to have her look back and think I would take advantage of that weak period of time. Looking back, I don't know if I did the right thing or not.
If you can let your friend know that you would not shun her based upon her beliefs--even if she joined your church and then later left--you can demonstrate to her what her congregation can't/won't.
I asked my JW friend one time whether she was more dedicated to God, or to the Watchtower. I asked, "If you ever, in the future, saw that the command of God and the command of the Watchtower were at odds, whom would you follow?" She replied that her loyalty belonged first to God. I think that if you can help your friend state this, then she will be able at some point to have some confidence in her integrity should she ever have to back off from the WT. That is, she has declared who her first allegiance is, and if you can successfully point out to her that the WT often diametrically opposes God, she can give herself permission to follow God even if it takes her away from the WT. At heart, she has not truly changed.
One of the most impressive people I ever met was one who listened well, smiled, and never judged me in the middle of all my crazy life. I knew from that person something of whom Jesus must really be like, and it affected me deeply. Love your friend as an extension of Christ. Don't worry so much about what you may say.
Really glad to see you on the board!
bebu
after a lenthy illness, 10 years in total, my mother, margaret stecko, passed away peacefully today surrounded by family.
she was 84, and leaves behind 3 children, 5 grandchildren, and 8 great grandchildren.
she was a jw but never shunned me.
(((((((finally-free)))))))
My deepest condolences to you. She sounds like a very remarkable woman, with a great deal of inner strength. I can't imagine enduring half of what she did.
I pray your love for each other may transcend death and, with God's grace, give you hope.
bebu
just a little breaking news:.
after several years of a great friendship with diane (previously posted as xena) things have started to really come together recently and i've succumbed to making an honest woman of her (or at least as honest as it's possible to make her.
last night (xmas day) i popped the question and she agreed to marry me (i wonder if she knows what she's let herself in for!!!)..
Woohoo! What a surprise! But I'm very happy for you both!!!
Mazel tof!!
bebu
headed out the door and looking forward to it.. jeff .
Thanks for the update, Jeff. I was hoping you were blessed. Nice to hear that so many others had a great experience.
Our church had 2 services on Sunday evening this year. The 8:00 one is usually very boisterous, lots of songs, and people lighting candles. We went to the later one, termed a "celebration" service... but ironically the tone of it was so meditative that it ended up feeling about as joyful as Good Friday service. Very strange and kind of disappointing. It wasn't intentional. But I guess it worked from a "meditation-only" standpoint.
bebu
'give me carols' class
you guys, help me out here please!.
if you read my post about my dad, you understand why i am a bit nervous.
he is calling now.
Calendra, WELCOME to the board!
And what you wrote is an excellent technique and it does work. Stubborn people usually brush off the first objection (just like when going door to door), and keep pressing forward. Repeating the exact phrase again, no variances, and then after the 3rd time quickly cutting them off is very powerful!
Schism, I wish you luck with your dad. Remember that he really is concerned for you, even though he is a control freak.
bebu
Merry Christmas to you too, rekless and confession and star moore. , and to all others on the board.
I heard the bells on Christmas day
Their old familiar carols play,
And wild and sweet the words repeat
Of peace on earth, good will to men.
And thought how, as the day had come,
The belfries of all Christendom
Had rolled along the unbroken song
Of peace on earth, good will to men.
Till ringing, singing on its way
The world revolved from night to day,
A voice, a chime, a chant sublime
Of peace on earth, good will to men.
And in despair I bowed my head
“There is no peace on earth,” I said,
“For hate is strong and mocks the song
Of peace on earth, good will to men.”
Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:
“God is not dead, nor doth He sleep;
The wrong shall fail, the right prevail
With peace on earth, good will to men.”
Merry Christmas!!
bebu