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Daniel1555
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Evidence of life after death?
by little_Socrates inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html.
"experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.. but scientists in the new study heard said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated.".
how are people having "experinces" while there is no evidence of heart or brain activity?.
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Evidence of life after death?
by little_Socrates inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/life-after-death-largestever-study-provides-evidence-that-out-of-body-and-neardeath-experiences-may-actually-be-real-9780195.html.
"experts currently believe that the brain shuts down within 20 to 30 seconds of the heart stopping beating and that it is not possible to be aware of anything at all once that has happened.. but scientists in the new study heard said they heard compelling evidence that patients experienced real events for up to three minutes after this had happened and could recall them accurately once they had been resuscitated.".
how are people having "experinces" while there is no evidence of heart or brain activity?.
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Daniel1555
I believe Near Death experiences are real.
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Don't say "the truth", say the Jehovah's Witness religion
by hoser inwhen i meet up with a jay dubya i've never met before and the conversation inevitably turns to "so where did you learn the truth?
i reply" my parents joined the jehovahs witness religion in 1982".
some of the looks i get are priceless .
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Daniel1555
Most JW don't have the truth right now.
Because....
...the truth changed on Saturday. From Saturday onward Gog is not Satan anymore. Hardly anyone of the r&f know this.
I just told it my parents yesterday. I know how they would react. They don't care at all.
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Children & TV....OMG tv.jw.org Would you let the GB watch your kids?????]
by 4thgen inwell, it's starts today.
the jw's know what they are doing to corrupt young minds.. ***g749/8p.11theimpactoftv***.
another problem is that very young children believe what they see on tv; they do not distinguish between reality and a make-believe world.
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Daniel1555
Hopefully they will give Stephen "Rubbermouth" Lett his own TV show.
It would no doubt help many to wake up.
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Elders, apostasy and disfellowshipping issue's - thoughts please
by FeelingFree inok so... when i was talking to my mil about why i no longer wanted to be a witness she kept trying to convience me that i needed to speak to the elders.
i said from the word go i didn't feel the need to as my mind was already made up and no one could change it.
i also said if the elders new all my reasons for leaving they would view me as an apostate and i would get disfellowshipped.
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Daniel1555
Dear Feelingfree
I made the experience that they don't df you if you believe something differently.
They asked me in many different ways the loyalty question (do you believe the fds is gods channel). They said from my answer they see that I don't accept the fds as gids channel. However they clearly said that I can believe whatever I want to. The crucial thing for them is, if I talk to others in the congregation about it.
If they ever want to make a shepherding call or talk to me in the back room I will tell them.
Thank you very much for your concern but my relationship to my creator (or to Jehovah) is very precious to me AND VERY PERSONAL. So I will not discuss that with you. If ever I need your spiritual advice, I will let you know.
I am happy that you and your hubby are both on the way out. I wish you good luck. Just be always kind to your family that are in and the elders. When the elders realize they have no power over you, they will leave you alone.
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Elders, apostasy and disfellowshipping issue's - thoughts please
by FeelingFree inok so... when i was talking to my mil about why i no longer wanted to be a witness she kept trying to convience me that i needed to speak to the elders.
i said from the word go i didn't feel the need to as my mind was already made up and no one could change it.
i also said if the elders new all my reasons for leaving they would view me as an apostate and i would get disfellowshipped.
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Daniel1555
I discussed with the elders during many hours why I believe the blood doctrine and shunning is wrong. I told them why I don't believe the bible is infallible (god ordering genocide and killings of children), that I doubt the fds is god's channel and that I would accept a blood transfusion for me and my son in a medical urgency.
After a long time debating and probably asking the CO or the branch they decided that they don't df me but that I just can't talk to other brothers about it. In that case they would df me for apostacy.
Now they leave me alone.
Better not to talk to them.
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Jim Trafacant
by Jeannette injim trafacant was involved in a very serious farm accident and is in a medically-induced coma.
has anyone heard how his is doing this morning?.
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Daniel1555
Never heard of him.
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Forcing child to watch JW.org kid's videos?
by Darth Fader The Sequel inwe recently were visiting lifelong friends of ours in another state.
these people are uber-devoted jw's.
i mean they are prototypical "witness zombies" who do exactly what the gb tell them to without fail and always with a smile on their face.
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Daniel1555
It's good that she was disappointed as she "has" to watch it.
Worse would be if she said with a happy face "Can I watch the Caleb cartoons?"
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I am sooo screwed
by Yondaime inso last night i was talking to my sister about how i admired president obama's speech to the u.n that happened earlier that day.. i then compared the extremism of isis to how much of a fanatic my jw bil is.. at the end of the statement , my mom walked in to the kitchen.
she was standing in the living room and she heard everything i said.. she called the elders that night to tell them what i said so they can counsel me.. i'm going to meet with them after the meeting on sunday!.
what do i do?!!!!!.
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Daniel1555
You do not have to meet with them. It is your life, your decision.
Be polite and say "No, I don't meet with you."
You will feel strengthened.
To your mum you can say. "Mum, I love you." "What I said was my opinion."
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Reflections - Updating MD card - did you stop updating?
by berrygerry ini finally removed my md card from my wallet yesterday.. although we were encouraged to create a new card annually, i had an internal hesitation, and a lack of enthusiam for it, as well as the meaningless cards for my kids.. the card that was pulled from my wallet was dated 1994. i obviously had some unconscious, if not conscious, problems with the borg, maybe with the 1995 generations bs.. did others stop updating their cards long before exiting?.
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Daniel1555
Don't let your kids carry that card.