In which talk did they talk about shunning df'd family members?
Daniel1555
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What I Learned Today
by OneFingerSalute injust thought i would share what i learned today sitting for several miserable hours at the circus assembly.. while i took "notes" i just cannot stand trying to type out all the details.
so suffice it to say the entire program can be covered with these few observations.. do more!
give more!
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NHS Finally speak out on the Ashya King story.
by nicolaou ini count brett and nagmeh as personal friends though i've not spoken to them since they left the uk.. my personal interest stated i'm just going to share the link and step back from the discussion.
they are good people, but good people can make mistakes too.
i hope the bbc documentary tonight doesn't demonise them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-32219005.
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Daniel1555
Witness my fury:
It is not right to call them idiots.
I think they are very brave and showed their deep love for their son. I hope so much that Ashya will be fine.
I highly respect Brett Kings actions especially that he officially said that Ashya comes before his religion which means that he would even allow blood.
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These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included
by Crazyguy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
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Daniel1555
Absolutely embarassing ...
This does not wake up a single jw in that hall.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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Daniel1555
Hi Cofty
More than a year ago before I started my fade, I told the elders that I don't agree with the WT view on blood.
I explained them in writing in great detail why I would allow for myself and my son a blood transfusion when alternatives won't work.
I spent a few hours discussing with 2 elders exactly about your reasoning.
The only thing they could do is to scratch their heads and direct me to a "Questions from readers" article in WT 15.04.83 dealing about that. There it is said that the situation described in Lev. 17:15 is only if an israelite erred "inadvertently", and ate a dead animal unbled.
When reading the context how can it possibly be, that you eat "inadvertently" an already dead animal or one torn by wild beasts? The elders had to admit, that this is not the case in Lev. 17:15.
But of course they can't agree with a view that goes contrary to what the org is saying.
I showed this reasoning to some close jw friends and also my parents.
The reaction is, that they really start to think and also to question the blood doctrine.
They understand the reasons why I would allow blood. They said, maybe you are right and the org. is maybe wrong with it. But we have to obey and trust the FDS.
Some say, "I can't say how I am going to react in a life and death situation."
But I agree with you cofty, that these reasonings you mention are the best possible way to make a jw reconsider the blood doctrine. These are great biblical arguments that JW don't know.
And by the way. I am sure that the bible is not god's word. It was a long and sometimes painful journey for me to come to that conclusion.
When talking to a JW about any topic though, you have to reason in a way, as if the bible is god's word.
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Abortion?
by Protarded inscenerio.
your daughter gets pregnant.
your little girl whom you've invested your life and love.
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Daniel1555
Hi
A baby won't stop her progress.
She will be able to grow as a morally sound person. To care for a baby, child and later young adult is not easy and she needs a lot of strength and also support from her parents or others, especially as she is young, BUT IT IS REALLY WORTH THE EFFORT.
As you put it well your daughter is your life and love.
If she has a child of her own, her child WILL BE HER LIFE AND LOVE. I think nothing is greater than the love one has for your own child.
She will not regret it.
With your support she could still educate herself. Her career AND MAJOR POTENTIAL is not lost at all.
If she has an abortion, guilty feelings could come up during her whole life, especially if she might have other children later.
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JW Son dead in German plane crash, no big deal!
by noolite inseems to be a jw connection with the crash after all, but it wasn't the co-pilot as some had surmised.
the father of the only american male killed in the crash weighs in with a very mild assessment of the mass murderer, and doesn't seem overly concerned about his son, now deceased.. ---------------------------------------------------------------- .
"the parents of an american victim of the french alps plane crash said on 27 march they feel sadness for the parents of the co-pilot rather than feeling anger for the loss of their son.. robert tansill oliver, a jehovah's witness, lost his 37-year-old son robert oliver calvo in the germanwings plane crash.. "i don t feel anger.
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Daniel1555
Minimus
I am no apologist. I am an ex jw.
And I think sir82 and old hippie are right.
Not everyone is having feelings of anger when grieving.
Some choose to forgive.
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JW Son dead in German plane crash, no big deal!
by noolite inseems to be a jw connection with the crash after all, but it wasn't the co-pilot as some had surmised.
the father of the only american male killed in the crash weighs in with a very mild assessment of the mass murderer, and doesn't seem overly concerned about his son, now deceased.. ---------------------------------------------------------------- .
"the parents of an american victim of the french alps plane crash said on 27 march they feel sadness for the parents of the co-pilot rather than feeling anger for the loss of their son.. robert tansill oliver, a jehovah's witness, lost his 37-year-old son robert oliver calvo in the germanwings plane crash.. "i don t feel anger.
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Daniel1555
Sir82 is absolutely right.
You don't know about the feelings of the involved.
Why do you say "No big deal?" This statement is so without respect for the grief of that man.
Not everyone is reacting with anger. I think that fathers reaction is much better.
Just learn to be more respectful.
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If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!
by minimus ini am most curious.
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Daniel1555
I didn't go to a kh meeting since about 4 months.
Today I saw a sister from my congregation on the street who wanted me to come back to meetings.
I told her. "I just don't feel comfortable at the meetings. I didn't lose faith in god I just don't feel comfortable at the meetings."
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It's starting shunning will stop brochure first.step
by poopie ini'm in contact with service and writing and brochure first step there bleeding publishers they can't take it anymore publishers are depressed because they feel they must shun others and they know it's unloving.
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Daniel1555
I don't understand your title and post.
Can't you write clearer?
Do you mean they write a brochure about it?
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Revised NWT in Brazilian Potuguese released
by Elisa1966 inhttp://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/16901-new-world-translation-2013-revision-in-additional-languages/page-5
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Daniel1555
Was it really released or is it just "the opinion" of that brother?