Posts by Daniel1555

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is the current WT teaching that all prior to jesus death will not go to heaven?

by sowhatnow in

if so would that not make matthew ch 17 vs 3 [transfiguration] a bit confusing to explain?

i mean, where did they come from?

the grave?

Daniel1555

They say the transfiguration is just a vision.

Harder for them to explain would be Hebrews 11:16.

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I want to carry the microphones"

by stillin in

this was the reason that our 12 year old son gave us for wanting to be baptized.

my wife and i actually agreed that he should wait a little longer, thank god!

by the time he was 13 he was running wild.

Daniel1555

Now we only have "necessary family business" with her, consisting of her sharing the grandchildren with us.

Hi stillin

You heart an your mind tells you how wrong the shunning of your daughter is.

You even mentioned that she is even more moral than witnesses.

I think it must be your goal to change this family situation as soon as possible.

Apologize to your daughter for shunning her and have normal family relations.

You wife has to accept your decisions in this regard. You are the family head.

Tell your wife how you feel about shunning family members. It's not even biblical.

Good luck.

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Help prevent sons indoctrination.

by WasOnceBlind in

ok so here is the deal, as some of you who might have read my first post might remember, my parents are jw's while i myself have faded.

i have not told them that i don't believe in the borg and i have done my research and concluded it's a bunch of crap.

the main reason i haven't is because it would break my moms heart and probably send her into a deep depression (she suffers from depression).

Daniel1555

You used some smart and thought provoking questions. Continue to further critical thinking with your kid.

I am in a similar situation. However I told my parents how I feel about JW doctrines. I am also afraid to break my parents heart, but I think it is more important that they know my true feelings. They are sad when they think that I left, but they understand why now. We still have a very loving relationship.

When you want the indoctrination or bible study to stop,;you should really open up to your parents.

You will not stop all indoctrination as they will continue to talk with your kid about jehovah. But maybe you can tell them that they must stop "bible study" with him as this is not at all in their authority to do.

But don't be too strict, as you child is aware of all your actions. Most certainly further his desire to question everything.

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4 New BOEs as of Tuesday 4/28

by Atlantis in

we thank our informant for these documents and hope he/she will remain under the radar safely!.

click the green download button... 2015 april 17, boe (re: meeting medical needs in the foreign-language field).

.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gukk6aq.

Daniel1555

In those letters it says that field service group overseers should make sure all in their group have filled in an advance directive form and that the secretary should have an up to date copy.

Wondering if they approach me with this as they know what I think of this crazy doctrine.

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"Your good example is much needed for the young ones the congregation."

by Yondaime in

hey guys n gals, sorry its been such a long time since i've posted.

lately i've been very busy balancing between my school work and cult activities.

since i've been doing pretty well "spiritually"(enough field-circus hours, attending meetings, underlining my literatrash, reading, praying and serving as the mic-master) my coordinator grabbed me to the side after a meeting and talked to me for twenty minutes straight congratulating me about how good i am doing.. then he paused for a good five seconds and got all serious.. then he proceeded to tell me that the young ones in the hall aren't doing too well.

Daniel1555

Hi Yondaime

If you write like only 2-3 hours on your field service report he won't ask you to become a ms.

I made the mistake and preached too much at that time.

Good luck

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What I Learned Today

by OneFingerSalute in

just thought i would share what i learned today sitting for several miserable hours at the circus assembly.. while i took "notes" i just cannot stand trying to type out all the details.

so suffice it to say the entire program can be covered with these few observations.. do more!

give more!

Daniel1555

In which talk did they talk about shunning df'd family members?

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NHS Finally speak out on the Ashya King story.

by nicolaou in

i count brett and nagmeh as personal friends though i've not spoken to them since they left the uk.. my personal interest stated i'm just going to share the link and step back from the discussion.

they are good people, but good people can make mistakes too.

i hope the bbc documentary tonight doesn't demonise them.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-32219005.

Daniel1555

Witness my fury:

It is not right to call them idiots.

I think they are very brave and showed their deep love for their son. I hope so much that Ashya will be fine.

I highly respect Brett Kings actions especially that he officially said that Ashya comes before his religion which means that he would even allow blood.

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These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

by Crazyguy in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

to funny nice job....

Daniel1555

Absolutely embarassing ...

This does not wake up a single jw in that hall.

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

Daniel1555

Hi Cofty

More than a year ago before I started my fade, I told the elders that I don't agree with the WT view on blood.

I explained them in writing in great detail why I would allow for myself and my son a blood transfusion when alternatives won't work.

I spent a few hours discussing with 2 elders exactly about your reasoning.

The only thing they could do is to scratch their heads and direct me to a "Questions from readers" article in WT 15.04.83 dealing about that. There it is said that the situation described in Lev. 17:15 is only if an israelite erred "inadvertently", and ate a dead animal unbled.

When reading the context how can it possibly be, that you eat "inadvertently" an already dead animal or one torn by wild beasts? The elders had to admit, that this is not the case in Lev. 17:15.

But of course they can't agree with a view that goes contrary to what the org is saying.

I showed this reasoning to some close jw friends and also my parents.

The reaction is, that they really start to think and also to question the blood doctrine.

They understand the reasons why I would allow blood. They said, maybe you are right and the org. is maybe wrong with it. But we have to obey and trust the FDS.

Some say, "I can't say how I am going to react in a life and death situation."

But I agree with you cofty, that these reasonings you mention are the best possible way to make a jw reconsider the blood doctrine. These are great biblical arguments that JW don't know.

And by the way. I am sure that the bible is not god's word. It was a long and sometimes painful journey for me to come to that conclusion.

When talking to a JW about any topic though, you have to reason in a way, as if the bible is god's word.

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Abortion?

by Protarded in

scenerio.

your daughter gets pregnant.

your little girl whom you've invested your life and love.

Daniel1555

Hi

A baby won't stop her progress.

She will be able to grow as a morally sound person. To care for a baby, child and later young adult is not easy and she needs a lot of strength and also support from her parents or others, especially as she is young, BUT IT IS REALLY WORTH THE EFFORT.

As you put it well your daughter is your life and love.

If she has a child of her own, her child WILL BE HER LIFE AND LOVE. I think nothing is greater than the love one has for your own child.

She will not regret it.

With your support she could still educate herself. Her career AND MAJOR POTENTIAL is not lost at all.

If she has an abortion, guilty feelings could come up during her whole life, especially if she might have other children later.