it funny how the cult will imbelish on somethings and others they just sweep under the rug and you never hear anything about it again.
i was just doing some searches on the internet and stumbled on this.
i had heard that the dub's were trying to get people to go to israel and then you never hear anything after that.
"Any Jew who leaves Judaism becomes a Jew killer."
The people who protested are not a bit better than the JWs.
Why is it for JWs and for all the other religious fundamentalists so difficult to understand that one who leaves a religion is not a lesser person?
so, if lying or being deliberately misleading is a "disfellowshipping" offence, why haven't the brothers who lied to the australian royal commission been brought before a judicial committee?
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Just imagine that Jackson, Spinks etc are sitting in their Judicial Committees for lying or "bearing false witness" in their Royal Commission testimonies.
I know it's just a dream.
so, if lying or being deliberately misleading is a "disfellowshipping" offence, why haven't the brothers who lied to the australian royal commission been brought before a judicial committee?
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"Deliberate, malicious lying, bearing false witness."
This is a df offense, according to the elders book page 67.
(note: i apologize to the internet explorer users.
you probably can't see my first epic fail thread because i used firefox to post.
there's still some kind of glitch between a plugin i'm running, firefox posts, and ie.).
Great thread.
Learned a lot from it as I will be in a similar situation.
since this will be the norm in america, perhaps we should put a date on each of these topics.
can't really put school mass shooting because too many to choose from.
Rub a Dub
So you need guns everywhere.
Do you need guns in Kindergarten?
Do you need guns for 2 year olds?
Oh wait a minute. Not too long ago there were some 2 year olds who killed their mama or their brother because of playing with a gun.
But wait a moment....
Second amendment....
i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.
it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.
that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.
You wrote very well.
I doubt that you will ever get an answer.
I sent them letters too. I got an answer to a letter I wrote about proof that human life is older than 6000 years.
They brought up young earth creationists reasoning and that we have to trust the bible. Basically they said that the global flood changed everything and that all dating methods are not reliable for dates older than 4300 years.
I also mentioned ice core data and dendrochronology.
They didn't even try to refute these.
i am really struggling with this particular situation in my life, and i really need your help to readjust my thinking.
i am recently divorced from my ex-jw husband.
we were both disfellowshipped at around the same time about 2-3years ago.
I also recently got divorced.
The only advice I can give you. Don't concentrate on these matters that he does in his personal life now. As you are separated or divorced concentrate on YOUR life and things that make YOU AND YOUR GIRLS happy. Don't feel miserable about the things he does in his life, because this is not your life anymore.
Maybe with time passing you can at least be friendly to each other.
I would say be happy that he could leave the jw thinking and that he can enjoy his life outside of the watchtower. This way your girls can also benefit as they can spend time with a happy dad and that they will not be indoctrinated when they are with him.
Why didn't he act like that when he was with you?
Maybe because like you he was also a Watchtower victim.
But the most important advice I can give you. In front of your girls speak positive about their father and strengthen their bond with him.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
You can believe in God AND think that evolution is true, that homosexuality is allright, that the acts described in the bible are just cruel stories invented by power hungry humans.
At least I do.
i took the most recent video on "obey" and edited it down to its core.
here tony explains that the decisions of the faithful slave are arrived at "collectively" but are not a "collection" of man made decisions.
it would be comical if it weren't so sad.. tony video.
Excellent video.
Note that just last month Governing Body member Geoffrey Jackson said to the Royal Commission in Australia that it would be presumptious to say we are the only mouthpiece God is using.
Now I understand it better. He didn't mean they are NOT God's mouthpiece. He meant there are others too? Who are they? The pope?
At least the pope says beneficial things like banning nuclear weapons or to care for refugees or to take care to nature.
it's been years since i've prayed and the last one i prayed to was the god known as jehovah.
just wondering.
I still believe in a higher force who I believe to be the origin of everything.
I believe that every living thing is somehow connected to it. And I believe it is personal and also love.
So I pray.
But I don't believe or pray to the god of the bible.
