Posts by Daniel1555

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Demonic art in the watchtower?

by Lost and adrift in

does anybody remember a rumour or maybe it was a truth?

?...something about hidden pictures or symbols in the artwork of the watchtower.

was it one of those urban legends?

Daniel1555

DD I just love your posts... had such a laugh.

"Long Dong" is the reason I keep the old songbook ;-)

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Have we become what we despise so much?

by Tenacious in

the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

Daniel1555

I am here for nearly 3 years and I can't agree with you.

The welcome words are true and sincere, as it is a reality that you are free to talk and tell your feelings in this forum without any fear to lose your family or be viewed a despicable person.

Of course there are topics with debate and argueing but mostly thus remains respectful. By thinking about different arguments and views I am learning a lot.

This forum is a great place to be.

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Anthony Morris Says The Governing Body Is Not Dogmatic, But Simply Must Be Obeyed If You Want Jehovah's Blessing

by Brokeback Watchtower in

warning lots of compartmentalization going on, with huge leaps in logic and a whole lot of just beleive me because i say so.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyfm-zikbq.

Daniel1555

I think this is a very poorly made video and a bit misleading.

First the music in the background is just annoying.

Then there is a delay of about a second between image and sound, which makes the appearance, that his words don't match.

Thirdly it is poorly cut. There are cuts everywhere.

Why not show his whole speech?

Ok... i saw now konceptual posted a good video about without the things i criticized. Before I referred to the version posted in the beginning.

26

The Pain of Coming to a Decision

by daniel-p in

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friends

it's been at least a couple years since i've posted anything on here, and much longer than that since when i was active.

ten years ago i first came here all in turmoil over my disillusionment of my beliefs.

i've been through lots of ups and downs since then.

Daniel1555

Daniel

It is good that you told about your feelings. I can understand your feelings more than you might think.

My marriage broke because of a similar situation. My wife left, because she couldn't accept, that I got different feelings about JW teachings like blood, shunning, inspiration of bible etc. She said if I don't accept it as the gb is teaching, she can't live with me any longer. Now we are divorced, she tried everything in her power to limit my time with our wonderful little son and she is indoctrinating him strongly. But my son and I have a strong bond of love, which cannot be torn apart.

When I read your experience, it seems to me that despite all problems, you and your wife love each other. That is the best basis for your marriage. You said your wife isn't that active with jw things. So there might be a chance that her feelings might change about this religion.

I would suggest not to overwhelm her with anti JW reasoning. But slowly you can sow seeds of doubt. For example birthdays.

Make it known to her, that the birthday of your children are days worth celebrating, because as parents it was the most important day of your lives when your children were born.

Maybe ask her how she feels about the day when they were born. Make it known to her that she is a good mother and that you are thankful for everything she endured on the day your kids were born and that it is a day worth remembering even celebrating.

By the way the bible doesn't say anything against it. On the contrary. Romans 14:1-5 says that it is a conscience matter which days to remember. Even Jobs children celebrated birthdays according to Job 1:4. That the day of birth was meant is confirmed in Job 3:1.

If the tension in your marriage persists, marriage counselling would be a good idea.

Anyway I think of you and I hope that you find solutions that work for you and your family. But don't rush. Be patient.

I wish you all the best.

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Divergent (this is a must watch)

by Tempest in a Teacup in

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it's a 2014 movie and i'm only watching it now.

it reminds me strongly of the life of jws and ex-jws..

Daniel1555

These books by Veronica Roth have a lot of parallels to JWs and cult control.

I think Veronica Roth (the author of the series) has a JW background. Wikipedia says the following:

"Her maternal grandparents were concentration camp survivors, whose religious convictions pushed her mother away from religion."

In the second book of the series Tris is somehow looking at a religious ceremony and then thinking of her own upbringing.

Tris remembers the religion of her parents and admits that one part of her still holds on to this faith and another just finds it ridiculous - "the prayers before meals, the weekly meetings, the services, the poems about a selfless god."

Then they invite Tris to a religious ceremony, they give her a hand, talk about God's peace which is undeserved. She frees herself and runs as fast as she can to the trees. She stops and is fighting with tears.

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What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?

by minimus in

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friends

i say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.

Daniel1555

What about not being partial and help / care for ANY human being in need?

We humans are one family, no matter from which country we are.

In a Kindergarten in Germany, children where asked if they have refugees or foreigners in their Kindergarten group. The answer of a child. "NO, THERE ARE JUST CHILDREN."

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Trying to Forget the Four Cruel "Sisters" From Three Different Congregations

by Loi_241 in

i had a problem with four cruel "sisters" from three different congregations.

i was learning how to manage my emotion to these women because they were strong emotion to me.

i know the scripture inform me to not to hold against them as god will take care of them.

Daniel1555

Just forget about it and live your life.

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Our fade-gossip-elders calling

by All for show in

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friends

looking back we had been fading without even realizing it.

life happened...and we weren't regular.

then we woke up and have actively been fading for 9 months.

Daniel1555

"... we don't run a police state..." G. Jacksons words.

If they talk to or text you just reply very friendly. "My husband and I are perfectly fine. If we need your spiritual guidance and help we will contact you as soon as possible."

They will make efforts to meet you, because you stopped reporting fs. After 6 months of no reporting you are officially inactive in their statistics. When the CO comes he will pressure the elders and ask what happened to you and what they did to help you.

If they wanna meet you and say: "We would like to talk to you about our relationship to Jehovah." you can answer.

"We have a very strong and cherished relationship to Jehovah. This relationship is personal and we don't discuss it. If we need your spiritual guidance and help we will contact you as soon as possible."

Congratulations for not reporting anymore. Doesn't it feel liberating.

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Feigning warmth and feeling

by stillin in

this is a counsel point in the tms guidebook.

the guy who did the reading last night was supposed to be working on that while he read the account about how jehovah fought the unfaithful isrealites for judah.

jehovah killed 500,000 people that day.