Posts by Daniel1555

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Hello

jw
friends

just to say a big hello.

i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.

the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.

Daniel1555

I think this link will work for you to see these letters.

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/blood_-_jensen_letters.html

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Hello

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

jw
friends

just to say a big hello.

i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.

the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.

Daniel1555

Look at the Jensen letters.

Brother Jensen sent them several honest letters concerning the blood doctrine.

You can see how they responded over years. It's an eye opener. I think the link to these letters won't work. So you can search on google for them.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/105593/jensen-letters?page=1&size=20

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/blood_-_jensen_letters.html

I think this link will work

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Hello

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

jw
friends

just to say a big hello.

i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.

the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.

Daniel1555

Welcome

I sent several letters to Bethel.

The innocent ones they might answer you.

When criticizing them or suggesting reform they either don't answer or tell the CO to answer you directly or through the elders.

Then you are on their radar as someone who has doubts. They will try to readjust you. If that doesn't work over a period of time they leave you alone if you are lucky or they disfellowship you for apostasy (thats what they did in my case).

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One less JW in Scandinavia

by Powermetal4ever in

jw
friends

yes that's me, i am victorious!

i had enough after about 4 years knowing ttatt.

sent my da letter and it has been anounced at the meeting.

Daniel1555

Hey Powermetal

Congrats... how wonderful...

So good to be free, able to live according to your conscience, without man made rules of an earthly organisation.

In which country are you?

I am from Switzerland.

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

Daniel1555

So this weekend will be the WT study of this hateful article, stating plainly that adult children should shun their disfellowshipped parents, even if they are feeling lonely and depressed.

I am wondering what comments will be made. So this weekend I'll make an exception, listen in by phone and record this sick paragraph.

Also wondering what my parents will say about that paragraph, as they have regular and normal loving contact with me, their disfellowshipped son.

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Faith, where now?

by Theburstbubble in

so for the first time ever i went to a church service at my local church (coe) and i have to say it was awful!

it was just like a ritual.

the vicar would say something and then the congregation would all say a phrase in unison back to him.

Daniel1555

You could even be ...

... spiritual without being religious.

... believe in a higher power, god without any organised religion.

... pray and have a personal relationship to god without following any manmade rituals or set of rules.

... free to explore all kind of religions / churches until you find the one you feel good in (if you need organised religion).

But the best is, you are free to live a happy and satisfying life according to your conscience.

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Under WT rules, can JW women file for a divorce? Or can only men file?

by JimmyPage in

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friends

the reason i ask is because while watching the "dateline" episode about ralph candelario, the claim was made that only jw men could file for divorce, not women.

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i had never thought about this before.. also, how does this apply in cases where a husband is "apostate" while the wife is faithful to wt?

Daniel1555

A JW woman can file for divorce.

She will be counselled though. If there is no adultery she just won't be free to marry again.

But she will not be disfellowshipped.

It's exactly as Sir82 said.

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Since leaving WTTS have you joined a new church or just continue with the new beliefs you have discovered under no religion?

by AmIright in

share your thoughts ?

Daniel1555

After I left I consider myself spiritual but not religious.

I lost my trust and belief in organized religion, the bible and the god of the bible. But I still believe in a personal god.

It feels good to be free to explore different religious views.

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Hubby got asked the loyalty questions

by atacrossroads in

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friends

after hubby skipped out on the memorial his parents and close friends started getting more assertive with him.

before they took on the role of the concerned let me rescue you from your apostate wife's clutches.

it's 100% my fault he stopped being a witness according to the inlaws.

Daniel1555

Hey atacrossroads

First I think it is great, that you 2 are together on this journey out of the cult.

I was asked the loyalty questions many times during my fade, especially from elders.

Here is a thread where I describe how I answered the loyalty questions. There you find also some ideas how others answered them.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/281819/answered-fds-loyalty-question-elders-here-their-response

I recommend for the relationship with your family to not talk about religion and just show respect for their religious feelings.

I wish you good luck.

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Dear Jehova's Witnesses I have a question about your views in evolution.

by Deimos_Sec in

i have been wondering why your organization cannot accept evolution?

(when i say "cannot accept" i mean: you see it as anti christian) the reason i'm so curious about this is because by putting this here i hope to get smarter answers than i usually get, and also because you don't seem to put things like quantum theory, string theory, under the "evil scary scientific stuff label", also many religions have accepted evolution as most likely possible, or as something that is ok to believe since god could have used evolution to create mankind, in fact evolution isn't a "religion" and automatically doesn't get you labeled as an atheist, unless you are talking to the wrong person.

i am by no means trying to make you believe in evolution, i will respect you views, i believe every man has free will, well it kind of says it in the bible.

Daniel1555

Welcome.

Good that you left at such a young age.

I liked that you asked your questions in a very respectful way.

A JW forum is JWTALK. But I doubt that they will allow a controversial discussion there.