Just say "I am sorry, but no, I won't take the WT study."
Be persistent. If they want an answer you can tell them that it is because of personal reasons.
it looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.
2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.
3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.
Just say "I am sorry, but no, I won't take the WT study."
Be persistent. If they want an answer you can tell them that it is because of personal reasons.
Will this be shown at the friday afternoon talk about shunning?
Just breathtaking, that the mother ignores the call of her sad and lonely daughter, and that they portray it like that.
I guess a lot of JWs will think that these parents are not loving. If some of them continue the thought, that in fact it is the org who is teaching this, they might wake up.
hi everyone, a bit of an update here on my continuing disaster of a situation.. (refer to my previous posts for the full story) my mom met with me yesterday for dinner, it was nice.. however, she brought up the fact that because i live with my boyfriend and how everything has gone down, i will be disfellowshipped.. i think the elders basically have enough proof of this.. due to the anonymous tipper (still have no clue who it was, i live in another town 100's of miles away from my old congregation territory), and my mom telling them.
i'm not sure when they will announce it, or if they will contact me prior.. at this point i feel so emotionally dead i don't care- on the other hand, i don't want to be disfellowshipped because i do not want to loose a relationship with my mom.
that is the whole reason i tried fading out.. .
Hi Raven
I was df'd last year.
I have the same loving relationship to my parents as before. They will never shun me and I eat with them every week. I just don't discuss much about religious topics with them.
Although I did many things not to get df'd, getting disfellowshipped was good for my life.
Now I am completely free, free to live a good and morally fine life.
I lost all my JW friends, but I am slowly making new friends who won't just throw me away.
I feel for you and wish you all the best. Focus on the good things in your life. Be especially loving and respectful to your mum, so she also should accept and respect your life decisions.
If she intends to shun you, you could ask her if she would shun her grandchild if you would get pregnant.
i'm new here and haven't introduced myself yet, but have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and learned so much!
quick first question: if i get disfellowshipped for researching info on websites other than jw.org (the official website), how can i expect to be treated by my husband still in the truth?
ie what will he be told by the elders about how to treat me?
Just a brainstorm idea:
Why don't you try some volunteering for a good cause?
By doing that you might find some new friends and your husband sees, that you do something positive for others / community / environment, instead of knocking on doors.
i'm new here and haven't introduced myself yet, but have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and learned so much!
quick first question: if i get disfellowshipped for researching info on websites other than jw.org (the official website), how can i expect to be treated by my husband still in the truth?
ie what will he be told by the elders about how to treat me?
Welcome there is hope.
Looking at websites other than jw.org or even apostate websites is not a disfellowshipping offense.
If they find it out you will be counselled though.
But remember. The elders don't have any authority over you.
If you'll be disfellowshipped for other reasons your husband will be advised to stay with you. Only adultery is an official divorce reason for them.
They would maybe tell him that he shouldn't invite other jws if you are around.
zalkin proposing huge sanctions if jw leadership fails to produce documents.
unredacted this time!
feds need to get involved with this.
sp74bb
That article is from 14. April 16 and not the news we are waiting for.
It's a good overview of what happened till 14. April.
What interests me is what happened next, if they can make Watchtower produce those documents and what happens if they don't comply.
this afternoon is the 3 hour zone visit talk in selters, german branch.. i am together with my son (3 years) this weekend.
so i am happy that he can be with me doing fun stuff (maybe we'll eat some ice cream at the ice cafe after being on the playground) instead of sitting calm for 3 hours.
so there is no way i will attend this "boredom fest.".
This afternoon is the 3 hour zone visit talk in Selters, German branch.
I am together with my son (3 years) this weekend. So I am happy that he can be with me doing fun stuff (maybe we'll eat some ice cream at the ice cafe after being on the playground) instead of sitting calm for 3 hours. So there is no way I will attend this "boredom fest."
My parents and my ex will attend though.
Could anyone of you who is attending highlight some "gems" of this "not to be missed" event?
howdy guys!
this is our latest video on the jw broadcast in short form.
we talk about jw marriage challenges.
I love your videos....
A great hug from Switzerland 😉
today spiegel online & bento have an article about the anti-gay video.. spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in germany.. they also report and show that youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way.
sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they live each other.
then sofia's mother says: "thats wonderful.".
Today Spiegel Online & Bento have an article about the Anti-Gay video.
Spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in Germany.
They also report and show that Youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way. Sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they love each other. Then Sofia's mother says: "Thats wonderful."
;-)
Here the link:
http://www.bento.de/queer/zeugen-jehovas-gegen-homo-ehe-557656/#refsponi
hi guys, don't know if this is the right place to ask but id like to hear other peoples experiences with raising kids in a household with split faiths.
just for a bit of a back story, my wife and i have been married for comming up 6 years.
we have 3 kids, 2 boys aged 5 and 3 and a 8 week old girl.
I can recommend you to read the book "Raising Freethinkers - A practical guide for parenting beyond belief."
It has a lot of good ideas how to strengthen the children's critical thinking skills.
I think you can only succeed if you with a lot of love teach them how to think critically for themselves. Don't talk negatively about the faith of your wife as it will be counterproductive.
Show them that it is normal that people have different feelings about religion or believe different things. The importance is not in what you believe but how you act.
They will see that you have a different belief than your mum. They will ask questions. Tell them how you feel about this or that bit never in a downgrading way.
I am father of a 3.5 year old boy who is heavily indoctrinated by his jw mum. Lately he said "in a church are bad people."
I try my best in counteracting this indoctrination and teach him critical thinking but also tolerance and respect for different views.
I will make it clear for him, that he can change his religion a thousand times in his life; I will always love him and be there for him.
I wish you all the best. It is not easy.