Posts by Daniel1555

Conscientious objectors (be it JWs or other individuals) are NOT LOSERS. They deserve our highest respect, especially when they are facing prison or discrimination. They are much stronger than any person fighting in a war just "following orders" of their military.

Any civilized country should grant human rights to its citizens, even if it means allowing for an alternative civil service for those whose consciences doesn't allow to kill another human being (no matter if the conflict is morally justifiable).

South Korea has to still learn a lot about human rights.

And Clambake:

Would you have refused to say "Heil Hitler" if you lived during Nazi time?

I am an ex jw but I think jws can be proud of their history during nazi time and also their conscientous objectors.

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Something terrible has just happened

by Crazyguy in

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the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.

i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.

when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.

Daniel1555

Sorry crazyguy... too dumb here.

First thought you were serious. Didn't really think of all your words, like sacrificing your daughter and drank too much white wine.

It is really a great analogy that I will keep in mind.

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Something terrible has just happened

by Crazyguy in

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the neighbor child came over to play with my youngest child.

i think she's about 4 maybe 5. well anyway there was some strawberries out on the counter and she asked if she could have one and i said no.

when i looked over later i saw her sneak one.

Daniel1555

Don't be a drama queen.

Be happy that this kid wanted to eat something healthy as a strawberry.

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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?

by Deltawave in

there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.

Daniel1555

Deltawave:

I agree fully with you that there is a great difference between being religious and being spiritual.

I lost my belief in organized religion, but didn't loose spirituality.

I wish you all the best in your personal quest for spirituality.

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G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!

by fifth.column in

at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??

Daniel1555

Would be interesting to hear this broadcast, especially hearing him mention this example.

Does anyone have a recording of it?

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German Branch visit talk Mark Sanderson (Parents; don't hinder young children to get baptized)

by Daniel1555 in

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the video streaming of the german branch visit program was excrutiating 3.5 hours long.. i just went to see the last 45 min (part of mark sandersons talk).. i think sanderson is quite a sympathetic speaker and he kind of made a loving impression.. he didn't mention controversial stuff (except for one thing i will come to soon).

he mostly talked about how to find joy, even when life is not easy, and how much the gb loves the rank and file.. one point seemed soooo important to him.

parents and children.

Daniel1555

As some of you requested, here is my recording of Mark Sanderson talking about parents and children baptism.

It is not the full talk. It is just what he said about parents and children (12 min. long).

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/52h2c9loz0in2i8/AABQnGMfasf7Q7qPm7RZlMrBa?dl=0

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Has anyone seen today's JW broadcast this Saturday to the KH's 5/09/2015

by WideAwake7 in

i have faded successfully with family intact now for 3 years ...but my in-laws are still in the borg.

they are so excited to go to this event than visit there patriarch father of 97 years of age in the hospital who is still a jw .... who we take care of 24 /7 at his home.

what is so important about today?

Daniel1555

You probably mean the german branch visit.

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German Branch visit talk Mark Sanderson (Parents; don't hinder young children to get baptized)

by Daniel1555 in

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the video streaming of the german branch visit program was excrutiating 3.5 hours long.. i just went to see the last 45 min (part of mark sandersons talk).. i think sanderson is quite a sympathetic speaker and he kind of made a loving impression.. he didn't mention controversial stuff (except for one thing i will come to soon).

he mostly talked about how to find joy, even when life is not easy, and how much the gb loves the rank and file.. one point seemed soooo important to him.

parents and children.

Daniel1555

The video streaming of the German Branch visit program was excrutiating 3.5 hours long.

I just went to see the last 45 min (part of Mark Sandersons talk).

I think Sanderson is quite a sympathetic speaker and he kind of made a loving impression.

He didn't mention controversial stuff (except for one thing I will come to soon). He mostly talked about how to find joy, even when life is not easy, and how much the gb loves the rank and file.

One point seemed soooo important to him. Parents and children. First he mentioned that he himself, the brother that is travelling with him and his wife, and the branch overseer (don't know the correct title) and his wife, they all WERE BAPTIZED BETWEEN AGE 9 AND 11. In other words, it is very good, if a child as young as 9 gets baptized.

Quite long he urged parents not to hinder young children to get baptized. He also talked about the reasons, why jw parents would possibly hinder young children for baptism.

The first reason he mentioned:

Fear of the parents that the child might be DISFELLOWSHIPPED later.

Second reason:

Parents wish that the child will have a good education and that it has goals in this regard.

He said (i recorded it): "At the various conventions this year, it is a real joy to see so many who have qualified for baptism, AMONG THEM WERE SOME QUITE YOUNG IN YEARS. You parents have to be commended for raising your children to have an appreciation for the truth and for encouraging them to make a dedication to serve Jehovah when young. Such dear young ones face many challenges at school and yet have qualified to get baptized speaks very well of the home training they have received. Well that beautifully expresses the viewpoint of the governing body. And now brothers I would like to ask you a question: DO YOU SHARE THAT VIEWPOINT OF THE GOVERNING BODY? ARE YOU HELPING YOUR CHILDREN TO BECOME UNBAPTIZED PUBLISHERS AND TO MAKE THEIR DEDICATION AT A YOUNG AGE?"

I felt the way he talked about this is a sign, that this might be a real problem for the gb.

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They're Making it Impossible to Fade

by DarioKehl in

for those of you who have already faded due to family still being in, have you noticed how the noose is tightening?.

if it's not memorial, it's special day assembly.

if it's not that, it's convention or the special talk.

Daniel1555

If any elder approaches you saying, that you should hand in a copy of your blood card (or asks about the witnesses to your no blood decision) JUST SMILE AT HIM AND SAY SOMETHING LIKE: "Thank you so much, brother xxx for your concern. But no, my medical directive is something personal, that I will not share with you. Be assured that Jehovah knows about it, and I will fully rely on him if any urgency occurs."

The elders can't do anything but respect your decisions in this regard.

(Looking forward if any elder would have the nerve to approach me with this, as I told them in great detail why I would accept a blood transfusion for myself and my son and even donate blood.)