Posts by Daniel1555

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How to evade questions from elders when you stop going out door to door

by Olivia Wilde in

due to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...

Daniel1555

If an elder approaches you could say:

"Thank you brother xx for your personal interest. Be assured, dear brother, that I am giving my best to live a life that pleases Jehovah. I have a strong personal relationship to him and I am giving my best for him. Be assured that I will call you if I need spiritual help."

If they continue to ask be firm. You can also say. "My relationship to Jehovah is personal and I won't discuss it with anyone, BECAUSE IT IS PERSONAL."

They only have as much power over you as you give them.

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I've decided to make a difference that REALLY matters

by Mrs. Eden in

hello friends!today is a sad day for me, as seven months have gone by since my mother passed away after a decades-long fight with breast cancer..

because the witnessing/preaching/teaching work doesn't make any sense to me anymore; because it's not about any "truth"; and because it's basically useless, i've decided to quit doing it.

instead, i've decided to do something that actually can make a real difference in other people's lives.

Daniel1555

Wonderful decision.

I did the same. After i stopped the recruiting work i looked at volunteer work. I help refugees to learn the local language and in their integration.

I am so happy not to go door knocking again.

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Help finding Watchtower or Awake Showing "We Can't Kill Apostates Now" 1954 Mag?

by ReligionOfHatred in

i need information how the organization teaches members to shun any dealings with those they think are apostates, i am being labeled apostate by uncle crap head.

where is the magazine about "we wish we had the authority to kill apostates like the days of israel but the government does not allow this"?

do you have a list because my lawyer is going before a judge to show that, there is no way we can speak with them superfine's because they view us as the walking dead.

Daniel1555

In the WT of 15.07.92 p. 12, 13 it is said to hate apostates.

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need input: My wife is at it again...this time about the faithful and discreet slave

by goingthruthemotions in

so you all know that i go with my wife to the meeting to protect the kids from the drival and pacify her.

tonight we are sitting there and she points to mathew and says something about the faithful and discreet slave and she said eplain this.

so breaking away from what i was reading in the meeting..." in search of christian freedom by franz"...i said.

Daniel1555

Very well reasoned.

I think it is a positive sign that your wife asks you about your opinion.

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Nearly Killing My Mother Wasn't Enough !

by cookiemaster in

as some of you might have read last week, my mother had extremely low hemoglobin and without it, she would have died.

i have somehow managed to bring her to reason and accept the transfusion.

it saved her life.

Daniel1555

It is sad and a scandal how those elders and this organisation treats your mum and you. But that's their procedure.

I told them openly that i would accept blood for myself and my son and also the reason why i don't agree with their view of blood. They couldn't df / da me because I did not take blood, just hypothetically told them i would.

Your experience shows that they have no heart and care only for their bloody rules.

But why not look at it from a different view:

You and your mum could take this whole sad experience as a trigger to really leave. In all of this maybe your mum realizes that there is no real love in the org and that their rules are killing people. Show her that she should not feel sorry for surviving. Try to show her that a loving god (not the monster from the bible) would be rather happy that she survived as should all her friends in the congregation.

Don't fight the disassociation by action. Take it as an opportunity to leave and an example of their disgusting rules.

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Crazyguy is going batshit crazy a Rant

by Crazyguy in

yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).

( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).

i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.

Daniel1555

I love the experience and advice "dissonance_resolved" gave.

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

Daniel1555

This thread shows that you still have such a DOGMATIC jw mindset.

You CAN believe in science and accept evolution as a means of how species come into existence AND seriously believe in a creator force or even a personal god. There is absolutely no doubt about that.

To call someone an idiot because he believes in something you can't disprove is rather idiotic.

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Crazyguy is going batshit crazy a Rant

by Crazyguy in

yesterday some jw's came over to my house and were even being nice to me, most of the time if they do come by an elder or ms may say something but the others will not, its even hard for them to say just hello (how pathetic).

( they also do this behind my back as if i don't know).

i now realize by not being their i've handed my kids right over to them!.

Daniel1555

Read the book "Raising Freethinkers - A guide to parenting beyond belief."

It's not easy but you got to teach them to critically think for themselves. You can't do that by aggressively showing them the bible is crap.

They need to be able to question things, even your own views. When they ask questions, you can help them to find answers with reason outside of jw thinking. But don't be dogmatic too. Make sure that they know that you support them even if they change their beliefs a thousand times. Give them a lot of love. It is a good sign, that your youngest one asks you questions.

When talking about darwin, you could show them the last sentence of his work "On the origin of species", which shows that his work is not against a belief in god.

I also have to counteract on the indoctrination my little boy gets from the cult and his mum (we are separated and soon divorced).

The above mentioned book helps me a lot ESPECIALLY CHAPTER 3. I am sure it will help you too.

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JWs are just weird people, I think their going insane!

by ReligionOfHatred in

there's a interesting situation emerging where i live and i want to share it all with you because its proof i think jehovah has pulled his holy spirit away.

when elders think they can steal from the government and pretend to be holy, than jehovah god has left us!.

Daniel1555

Welcome.

So what is this interesting situation emerging?

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Watchtower lack of empathy for victim children stunned Royal Commission

by Esse quam videri in

the comments and facial expressions of judge peter mcclellan, the chair of the royal commission and angus stewart, though subdued, clearly showed their disbelief and disgust at the lack of compassion and empathy by the org and the elders and gb jackson when questioned.. this link, is a sobering look at the emotions people should feel at the abuse of their children.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g7vpdfqs0q.

Daniel1555

Strange thread.

I thought I would see something about the facial expression of justice Mc Clellan or Angus Stewart.

I personally thought Jackson was showing some empathy with regard to BCG. I don't know if it was his true feelings though.