Posts by Daniel1555

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was Darwin an atheist?

by Ruby456 in

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asking this q because my own feeling about this is that he probably believed in god but his evolutionary thesis is used to support atheism.

how come?

Daniel1555

He became an agnostic.

Evolution does not say anything against the concept of a "higher creative power" or "god."

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Rumour about the reason of my disfellowshipping: Spiritism!

by Daniel1555 in

in november i was disfellowshipped for apostasy or in other words, because i live by my conscience and not according to the unloving rules of a human organisation.

details of my story and the judicial committee you find in my older threads.. i am lucky, as the relationship to my parents is the same as before.

now my mother told me what one elder (cobe of the congregation of my ex wife) told one sister.. he met her on the street and talked about my disfellowshipping.

In November I was disfellowshipped for apostasy or in other words, because I live by my conscience and not according to the unloving rules of a human organisation. Details of my story and the judicial committee you find in my older threads.

I am lucky, as the relationship to my parents is the same as before. Now my mother told me what one elder (Cobe of the congregation of my ex wife) told one sister.

He met her on the street and talked about my disfellowshipping. He told her that I was disfellowshipped because of spiritism.

Well, I like Harry Potter and all kind of fantasy stories and fairytales.

LOL In their eyes I must be a devil worshipper practicing witchcraft and magic ;-) when all I did was standing in for my conscience, celebrating my sons birthday and sticking to my conviction that in a medical urgency I would never ever let my son bleed to death.

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Don't know what to do

by looter in

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i'm in a crazy situation.

about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

Daniel1555

Just be kind to your dad and don't talk to him about baptism. Maybe he just overreacted.

I never heard anything about a dad throwing his son out because he is not getting baptized. By the way that is not even supported by the organisation or the elders.

If your father asks you again about baptism just tell him that you are not ready. You can tell him that Jesus was 30 when he was baptized.

You have all your life before you. Great that you realized the truth about this org when you are so young.

So you will be able to have a good life without this organizations influence. You are free.

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Your Jehovah’s Witness Is Showing

by David_Jay in

since i just signed up and posted a few times without doing this yet, here is my story..

i think that i became a jehovahs witness because of my immaturity.

i had some quirky personality traits, and i joined finding that i fit in because, as i said to myself: these people get me.

Daniel1555

Hi David

Such a wonderful first post. Your words contain a lot of truth for all of us, because this little "Jehovahs Witness" is really showing sometimes, for some more, for some less. You will also realize it here in this forum.

I wish you all the best from my heart.

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Fishing and JW's???

by lurkernomore in

so i was just reading a thread and came across a completely new jw 'rule', that of not being allowed to go fishing!..

at least it's new to me as i always enjoyed fishing as did others in my old congregation.

anyone else heard of this or had this imposed on them in they're jw lives?.

Daniel1555

There is no official jw rule against fishing and hunting. Don't believe everything you hear.

However I think it is good to ask yourself why fishing or why hunting?

I think it wouldn't be morally right to do it just for fun. That is my opinion and has nothing to do with JWs.

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General health after learning TTATT

by Darkknight757 in

4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.

during this time my health was going down hill.

i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.

Daniel1555

I wish you all the best for your health.

And you are very courageous to learn TTATT and trying to step down.

I was an elder too. You said they won't let you step down. Of course they don't want you to step down. So you need to be persistent.

If you decide to step down, stay your ground and step down no matter what they try to hinder you.

You don't have to make lengthy explanations. You could even say for health reasons and leave it at that. But you need to say NO!, even if they don't like it.

You will feel better if you listen to your conscience.

For me it was such a great relief, not being an elder anymore.

Wish you all the best.

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Demonic art in the watchtower?

by Lost and adrift in

does anybody remember a rumour or maybe it was a truth?

?...something about hidden pictures or symbols in the artwork of the watchtower.

was it one of those urban legends?

Daniel1555

DD I just love your posts... had such a laugh.

"Long Dong" is the reason I keep the old songbook ;-)

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Have we become what we despise so much?

by Tenacious in

the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.

upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.

again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.

Daniel1555

I am here for nearly 3 years and I can't agree with you.

The welcome words are true and sincere, as it is a reality that you are free to talk and tell your feelings in this forum without any fear to lose your family or be viewed a despicable person.

Of course there are topics with debate and argueing but mostly thus remains respectful. By thinking about different arguments and views I am learning a lot.

This forum is a great place to be.

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Anthony Morris Says The Governing Body Is Not Dogmatic, But Simply Must Be Obeyed If You Want Jehovah's Blessing

by Brokeback Watchtower in

warning lots of compartmentalization going on, with huge leaps in logic and a whole lot of just beleive me because i say so.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyfm-zikbq.

Daniel1555

I think this is a very poorly made video and a bit misleading.

First the music in the background is just annoying.

Then there is a delay of about a second between image and sound, which makes the appearance, that his words don't match.

Thirdly it is poorly cut. There are cuts everywhere.

Why not show his whole speech?

Ok... i saw now konceptual posted a good video about without the things i criticized. Before I referred to the version posted in the beginning.

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The Pain of Coming to a Decision

by daniel-p in

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it's been at least a couple years since i've posted anything on here, and much longer than that since when i was active.

ten years ago i first came here all in turmoil over my disillusionment of my beliefs.

i've been through lots of ups and downs since then.

Daniel1555

Daniel

It is good that you told about your feelings. I can understand your feelings more than you might think.

My marriage broke because of a similar situation. My wife left, because she couldn't accept, that I got different feelings about JW teachings like blood, shunning, inspiration of bible etc. She said if I don't accept it as the gb is teaching, she can't live with me any longer. Now we are divorced, she tried everything in her power to limit my time with our wonderful little son and she is indoctrinating him strongly. But my son and I have a strong bond of love, which cannot be torn apart.

When I read your experience, it seems to me that despite all problems, you and your wife love each other. That is the best basis for your marriage. You said your wife isn't that active with jw things. So there might be a chance that her feelings might change about this religion.

I would suggest not to overwhelm her with anti JW reasoning. But slowly you can sow seeds of doubt. For example birthdays.

Make it known to her, that the birthday of your children are days worth celebrating, because as parents it was the most important day of your lives when your children were born.

Maybe ask her how she feels about the day when they were born. Make it known to her that she is a good mother and that you are thankful for everything she endured on the day your kids were born and that it is a day worth remembering even celebrating.

By the way the bible doesn't say anything against it. On the contrary. Romans 14:1-5 says that it is a conscience matter which days to remember. Even Jobs children celebrated birthdays according to Job 1:4. That the day of birth was meant is confirmed in Job 3:1.

If the tension in your marriage persists, marriage counselling would be a good idea.

Anyway I think of you and I hope that you find solutions that work for you and your family. But don't rush. Be patient.

I wish you all the best.