Posts by Daniel1555

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I'm getting disfellowshipped

by raven in

hi everyone, a bit of an update here on my continuing disaster of a situation.. (refer to my previous posts for the full story) my mom met with me yesterday for dinner, it was nice.. however, she brought up the fact that because i live with my boyfriend and how everything has gone down, i will be disfellowshipped.. i think the elders basically have enough proof of this.. due to the anonymous tipper (still have no clue who it was, i live in another town 100's of miles away from my old congregation territory), and my mom telling them.

i'm not sure when they will announce it, or if they will contact me prior.. at this point i feel so emotionally dead i don't care- on the other hand, i don't want to be disfellowshipped because i do not want to loose a relationship with my mom.

that is the whole reason i tried fading out.. .

Daniel1555

Hi Raven

I was df'd last year.

I have the same loving relationship to my parents as before. They will never shun me and I eat with them every week. I just don't discuss much about religious topics with them.

Although I did many things not to get df'd, getting disfellowshipped was good for my life.

Now I am completely free, free to live a good and morally fine life.

I lost all my JW friends, but I am slowly making new friends who won't just throw me away.

I feel for you and wish you all the best. Focus on the good things in your life. Be especially loving and respectful to your mum, so she also should accept and respect your life decisions.

If she intends to shun you, you could ask her if she would shun her grandchild if you would get pregnant.

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disfellowshipped wife, husband still a jw

by thereishope in

i'm new here and haven't introduced myself yet, but have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and learned so much!

quick first question: if i get disfellowshipped for researching info on websites other than jw.org (the official website), how can i expect to be treated by my husband still in the truth?

ie what will he be told by the elders about how to treat me?

Daniel1555

Just a brainstorm idea:

Why don't you try some volunteering for a good cause?

By doing that you might find some new friends and your husband sees, that you do something positive for others / community / environment, instead of knocking on doors.

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disfellowshipped wife, husband still a jw

by thereishope in

i'm new here and haven't introduced myself yet, but have been lurking for the past couple of weeks and learned so much!

quick first question: if i get disfellowshipped for researching info on websites other than jw.org (the official website), how can i expect to be treated by my husband still in the truth?

ie what will he be told by the elders about how to treat me?

Daniel1555

Welcome there is hope.

Looking at websites other than jw.org or even apostate websites is not a disfellowshipping offense.

If they find it out you will be counselled though.

But remember. The elders don't have any authority over you.

If you'll be disfellowshipped for other reasons your husband will be advised to stay with you. Only adultery is an official divorce reason for them.

They would maybe tell him that he shouldn't invite other jws if you are around.

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San Diego abuse case: stay tuned. Zalkin's motion to be considered this Friday.

by Sugar Shane in

zalkin proposing huge sanctions if jw leadership fails to produce documents.

unredacted this time!

feds need to get involved with this.

Daniel1555

sp74bb

That article is from 14. April 16 and not the news we are waiting for.

It's a good overview of what happened till 14. April.

What interests me is what happened next, if they can make Watchtower produce those documents and what happens if they don't comply.

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Zone visit talk Selters Germany

by Daniel1555 in

this afternoon is the 3 hour zone visit talk in selters, german branch.. i am together with my son (3 years) this weekend.

so i am happy that he can be with me doing fun stuff (maybe we'll eat some ice cream at the ice cafe after being on the playground) instead of sitting calm for 3 hours.

so there is no way i will attend this "boredom fest.".

Daniel1555

This afternoon is the 3 hour zone visit talk in Selters, German branch.

I am together with my son (3 years) this weekend. So I am happy that he can be with me doing fun stuff (maybe we'll eat some ice cream at the ice cafe after being on the playground) instead of sitting calm for 3 hours. So there is no way I will attend this "boredom fest."

My parents and my ex will attend though.

Could anyone of you who is attending highlight some "gems" of this "not to be missed" event?

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Our thoughts on the latest JW Broadcast for the month of May

by Christian Gutierrez in

howdy guys!

this is our latest video on the jw broadcast in short form.

we talk about jw marriage challenges.

Daniel1555

I love your videos....

A great hug from Switzerland 😉

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Now finally Caleb & Sofia Anti-Gay Video going viral in Germany too

by Daniel1555 in

today spiegel online & bento have an article about the anti-gay video.. spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in germany.. they also report and show that youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way.

sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they live each other.

then sofia's mother says: "thats wonderful.".

Daniel1555

Today Spiegel Online & Bento have an article about the Anti-Gay video.

Spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in Germany.

They also report and show that Youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way. Sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they love each other. Then Sofia's mother says: "Thats wonderful."

;-)

Here the link:

http://www.bento.de/queer/zeugen-jehovas-gegen-homo-ehe-557656/#refsponi

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Raising kids in a split faith household

by rathernotsay in

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hi guys, don't know if this is the right place to ask but id like to hear other peoples experiences with raising kids in a household with split faiths.

just for a bit of a back story, my wife and i have been married for comming up 6 years.

we have 3 kids, 2 boys aged 5 and 3 and a 8 week old girl.

Daniel1555

I can recommend you to read the book "Raising Freethinkers - A practical guide for parenting beyond belief."

It has a lot of good ideas how to strengthen the children's critical thinking skills.

I think you can only succeed if you with a lot of love teach them how to think critically for themselves. Don't talk negatively about the faith of your wife as it will be counterproductive.

Show them that it is normal that people have different feelings about religion or believe different things. The importance is not in what you believe but how you act.

They will see that you have a different belief than your mum. They will ask questions. Tell them how you feel about this or that bit never in a downgrading way.

I am father of a 3.5 year old boy who is heavily indoctrinated by his jw mum. Lately he said "in a church are bad people."

I try my best in counteracting this indoctrination and teach him critical thinking but also tolerance and respect for different views.

I will make it clear for him, that he can change his religion a thousand times in his life; I will always love him and be there for him.

I wish you all the best. It is not easy.

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My letter to Bethel about the flood

by Cornbread in

i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

Daniel1555

Great letter, very logical and respectful.

I also sent a similar letter once. They answered, if there is a contradiction between science and the bible, they would believe the bible.

Why are there many flood myths globally?

At the end of the ice ages (around 10000 - 8000 years ago) the sea level rose dramatically. There were many local floods worldwide, as the ice melt and the sea level rose more than 100 metres.

Very interesting is the work of scientists Pitman and Ryan, who proved, that about 8000 years ago the Bosporus broke and the mediterranian flooded into the black sea. This might have been the root of the middle eastern flood stories.

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Gorby says goodbye

by Gorbatchov in

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my eyes for ttatt opened in 1995 with the generation change and the wt magazine stated "some witness thought that the generation started in 1914".

since 1997, with internet at low speed, i followed h2o hourglass, www.xjw.com and later on www.jehovahs-witness.net.. did a bachelor and post bachelor since then.. now, nearly completed with fading, i feel it's time to go on with my life and do some other things, spending more time with my wife abd children instead of thinking about jw topics in my head.

goal is being a better person and less grumpy at 45.... everything what could be said is already said.

Daniel1555

Hey Gorby

It's great to spend more time with the family and think less on JW topics.

I loved your posts and threads from Holland. I myself am half dutch and half swiss, so I love the Netherlands too and am sometimes there too.

I wish you and your family all the best. Still would be great to read from time to time something from you.

Dani