MOUTHY - Thank you for being such a mainstay contributor on this forum. I've read so many of your posts from years back.
Hope you're in good health.
a dear old man, 81 years of age died the other day.
my family studied with his family in 1969 and the entire family left their beloved catholic church and became jehovah's witnesses within 6 months.the man was illiterate and unschooled.
still, he believed "the truth" and even when some of his kids left or got disfellowshipped, he persevered.
MOUTHY - Thank you for being such a mainstay contributor on this forum. I've read so many of your posts from years back.
Hope you're in good health.
this is a reminder for some, and fresh bible guidance for new arrivals to this site.. have you been "witnessing" today, or are you planning to?.
revelation 12:17 - ".......and have the work of bearing witness to jesus.".
acts 8:16 - ".......been baptized in the name of the lord jesus.".
Please do not feed or tease the Jehovah's Witness people.
"those with the earthly hope who supported christs brothers in the preaching work will have been judged as sheep and will be granted the privilege of living in the earthly realm of the kingdom.
" 3/2015 study wt learn from illustration of talents par 13.. so there you have it, to get salvation you need to only obey the gb and if you obey and worship the gb, then you will be judged as a sheep.
truly those who listen and obey, will be blessed!.
Of course it will be argued by apologists that in order to support Christ's brothers in the preaching work one must be acceptable to God in the first place, becoming an approved associate, at the very least, and all that THAT entails.
Simply getting off the sofa and going therefore to preach won't cut it in Watchtower land. You must be approved, baptized, spiritually clean, well-studied, humble/meek/mild, and let's not forget...organized to accomplish in order to be worthy of supporting Christ's brothers. THIS, they will argue, is the entire package being referred to in the 3-2015 Watchtower. THIS is what will gain you salvation.
we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?
i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.
i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .
Thanks again. A lot of great information here.
i have posted a handful of times so far.
i am seeking some ideas to plant some seeds with my nephew before he goes to patterson.. a little about me and the going away party where i will have an opportunity to plant these seeds.
i have a little freedom since i am the only relative that he is in communication with that spent some time at bethel.
Tell him it'll be a great place to meet his future husband.
we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?
i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.
i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .
Lots of great answers here. Thanks everyone.
the march 2015 study watchtower finally solves the mystery of the sheep and the goats:.
" first, note that jesus is teaching bymeans of an illustration.
obviously, he isnot talking about separating literal sheepfrom literal goats.".
Obviously, he is
not talking about separating literal sheep
from literal goats.
Ah... the deep things of God.
i took a hiatus from jwn because the wall started to collapse because i lost several people ive known almost my entire life.
these were people i thought would never die, the lies told by the watchtower is unforgivable!
there was a party i attended keeping a low profile while documenting what was said.
The good news is this organization WILL fall apart, if only to become a fraction of what it is today. The bad news is, the human suffering by our families and former associates is only going to get worse in that cult
i just veiwed it with the wife , son and his wife .this movie has to be rock bottom for nicolas cage surely.. for a score of 1 out of 10 i would give it a -10 , it is so contrived , badly acted , badly scripted , i dont know , their was just nothing to hold your attention really .
no suspense , no nothing at all .. all of us couldnt help ourselves as we picked holes in the movie the longer it went on .a good movie we watch you wouldnt hear a pin drop from start to finish.
a badly made religous propaganda movie apparently made to scare unbeleivers back to church , but be sincere.. smiddy.
I was going to go see it. Based on the previews it loked pretty good. Then my manager at work, a die-hard Christian, told me the movie was awful. He compared it to those old Left Behind movies with Kirk Cameron.
Bad acting, bad script, bad special effects, stupid premise.
we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?
i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.
i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .
We all know the calculations used by the WT to arrive at 1914. Fall of Babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, TA-DA, 1914.
What did they use before that? I know it wasn't Russell who came up with it - he just adopted it. I'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.