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  Decrease of numbers in Jehovah's Witnesses via Deaths, DFings, or Turning Inactive

  by flipper in

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  so i'm sure a good number of us saw the chart that i believe the poster splash put on another thread of figures since 1990 regarding how many baptized and % of increase each year .

  i started analyzing it ( and i know some referred to it briefly on the other thread ) and guessing of reasons the % of increase didn't match the number of newly baptized.

  and of course common sense tells us that either jw's leave the cult each year through death, fading into inactivity, or getting dfed.

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  Zoos

  While impossible to calculate, I'm sure the number of those who remain in for family, put in minimal hours to remain "active", and refuse to donate have gone up, up, up.
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  Did Watchtower lay the foundation for supporting abortions with this statement?

  by Zoos in

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  2. bible

  * * * watchtower, august 1, 1960, questions from readers, pp.479-480 * * * how can deuteronomy 24:16, which says, children should not be put to death on account of fathers, be harmonized with the fact that the offspring of the adulterous relation between david and bath-sheba died due to their sin, as shown in 2 samuel 12:14?j.

  b., u.s.a.the law, as stated at deuteronomy 24:16, shows that fathers were not to be put to death for their sons nor were sons to be put to death for their fathers.

  in mans administration of justice each was to die for his own sin, and not drag innocent relatives down with him.

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  * * * Watchtower, August 1, 1960, Questions From Readers, pp.479-480 * * *
  
  ● How can Deuteronomy 24:16, which says, “Children should not be put to death on account of fathers,” be harmonized with the fact that the offspring of the adulterous relation between David and Bath-sheba died due to their sin, as shown in 2 Samuel 12:14?—J. B., U.S.A.
  The law, as stated at Deuteronomy 24:16, shows that fathers were not to be put to death for their sons nor were sons to be put to death for their fathers. In man’s administration of justice each was to die for his own sin, and not drag innocent relatives down with him. In this particular case of David and Bath-sheba neither of them had a right to the child and so there was no injustice in their being deprived of it. Besides, as an uncircumcised, unnamed infant it had not as yet developed any personality pattern or consciousness so as to appreciate life. Then again, Bath-sheba could have been stoned to death for her adultery, in which case the unborn child would also have perished. However, as previously noted in The Watchtower, David was shown mercy because of the Kingdom covenant, which Jehovah had made with him. Nevertheless, to drive home the fact of Jehovah’s displeasure he let the child die, which was a very severe blow to King David. Two similar instances are recorded in David’s life: One was in connection with the death of Uzzah, who tried to steady the ark of the covenant; the other was the destruction of tens of thousands of Israelites because King David presumptuously and proudly determined to number the hosts of Israel. (1 Chron. 15:13; 21:1-27) Such records as these magnify the supremacy of Jehovah God and underscore the words: “He [God] doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?”—Dan. 4:35, AS.

  
  With this kind of reasoning a woman who's been raped could justify ending the pregnancy.
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  Revelation - it's grand climax is at hand

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  some people point out the subliminal pictures in the wtbts publications but sometimes things are just so obvious, such as the title of the book above.. the person who came up with the title for this book must have had a good old laugh.. interestingly, this book first came out in 1988 and has not been included in the online library but nothing has replaced it.

  the org is really going backwards when they ditch old light and cannot come up with anything new.

  they are real wankers ;)..

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  Every time I see the title to that book it takes me back to when dad studied the old Youth book with my brother(age 12) and me(age 10).
  

  * * * Your Youth - Getting the Best Out of It, chap.5, par.1 * * *
  Should you experiment with your sex organs? Is there anything wrong with rubbing them in some way until the excitement is climaxed?

  
  Guilty! I figured out how to do THAT real early. I was already getting the best out of my youth.
  ... and then that end-of-the-world climax? Different!
  
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  Is it true that they decided not to build Walkill Recreation center and then buried the foundation?

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw this on ex jw reddit:"this may not be news to you but it was to me.

  forgive me if this has already been posted before.

  it came from a reliable source working on the warwick project.. wallkill bethel had broken ground and laid the foundation for a new recreation building.

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  Building a foundation and then covering it over with dirt... why, that doesn't appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint at all.
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  Who would you vote for Today?

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  d. trump or h. clinton and why.. i would vote for gun slinging trump..

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  MagicHat Dear Diogenesister .... the list of "Hellary" negatives is much too long to list all of them here, and it boggles my mind that this woman is even allowed.....
  
  blah blah blah blah... buh-lah, buh-blah... [scratches butt] ... blah blah blah blah .......

  
  
  ..... schemes of the Clinton Foundation – we have no idea what shoe will fall next. But to her loyal fans - “what difference does it make?”

  
  LOLOL... MagicHat reads his news while waiting in line at the grocery store.

  You realize those aren't real newspapers, right?
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  Who would you vote for Today?

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  d. trump or h. clinton and why.. i would vote for gun slinging trump..

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  I'm no fan of Hillary but at least she knows how to behave in public.

  While I like many of Trump's ideas (not all, but many), he's a loose cannon. A freak. Do we really want that idiot representing the U.S. to the rest of the world?

  Coming home from work the other day I heard Trump being interviewed on RawDog Comedy, a satellite comedy station. He was asked why some women don't like him. He answered, "They're probably just some old centerfolds I screwed and they were hurt by the massive circumference of my cawk."

  I guess he thought he was being funny. He's an embarrassment.
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  My first post

  by thewalker in

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  2. friends

  hi, i just joined the board and wanted to present myself.. i'm active, in fact very active in congregation activities serving "where the need is great" in a foreign language congregation somewhere in western europe.

  as a young brother, i'm seen as an example as i'm doing all a good witness should do.. i had doubts years ago but i decided just to ignore them and move to another congregation to preach more.

  that worked for some years but i'm now at the exact same point.

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  Zoos

  I need time to think.

  
  

  That is precisely what they don't want you to have. They want you active, zealous, go, go, GO all the time... busy in the work of the lord so you don't have time to entertain your doubts, ponder the inconsistencies, identify the contradictions and start putting the pieces together. It is, therefore, vital that you MAKE THAT TIME HAPPEN.

  Someone on this forum once identified the Watchtower organization as a loveless recruitment machine. Giving yourself time to think will help you see past the glossy veneer (the polished outside of the cup) and see the machine for what it really is.

  Welcome to the forum. Your journey will be rough but you will come out the other side stronger and happier.
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  Religion spoils the real truth? What are your thoughts.

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i can see how science is answering our questions.

  okay, that's a sweeping statement, but it's the best way my empty head can express it.

  i'm not sure if we're evolving as a species...that's another subject i admit to not reading about.

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  Religion mucks up everything, I agree. But I don't think it renders void a belief in God, regardless of His definition.

  I like to think of Him as the God of Hey, don't be a dick! I worship Him by not being a dick. I evangelize about Him by encouraging others to not be a dick. I keep myself spiritually clean by avoiding association with people who are dicks.

  Religion turns people into dicks with their "I'm right, you're wrong"... "I'm righteous, you're unrighteous"... "I live, you die"... "I'm going to heaven, you're going to hell".... and all the dickey, dick DICK behaviors that go along with it.
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  Saddest thing about being DFd

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i always enjoyed being kind.

  when someone genuinely needed a hand or what not, it felt good to help family or friends.. i don't really miss them anymore.

  i faded over two years ago, so they long ago shunned me.i think about them less and less and have even forgotten some names.i did enjoy some of the friendships and the association.

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  You miss the brotherhood. Nothing wrong with that.

  While many on this board have very real horror stories about the people and elders they had to deal with, many of us actually enjoyed the people in our congregations and have nothing but fond memories in that regard.

  My own bad memories of only a few people could legitimately be chalked up to personality differences that we were adult enough to navigate peacefully (with the exception of one elder.... but that's a topic for another thread).

  I never felt particularly plugged in with the folks in my congregation. Not any meaningful, close friendships. Still, I felt the loss of brotherhood when I left. It's a sizable crater in your heart that will fill up with the passage of time and new friends.
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  The most widely distributed magazine in the US !!!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. watchtower & awake - under review as these is now a 16-page anorexic pamphlets (not magazines) .

  2. espn: 42.9 million 3. people: 28 million 4. allrecipes: 24.5 million 5. forbes: 21.6 million 6. time: 18.1 million 7. entertainment weekly: 14.3 million 8. cosmopolitan: 13.7 million 9. bloomberg businessweek: 11.2 million 10. new york: 9.8 million .

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  Zoos

  James Mixon
  They are right up there no doubt with toilet paper...Both serve the same purpose.

  
  

  I disagree.

  
  

  Toilet paper REMOVES shit.