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  God's Holy Spirit - Contradiction?

  by sincerelymine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's the backstory: a jw posted a thread in /r/debatereligion basically allowing the community to ask him anything.

  things got realer than he expected, i think.

  someone brought up the failed predictions and asked if they would qualify as false prophecy(1 john 4:1).

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  Zoos

  Let's assume for a moment that the bible IS the inerrant word of God. He used imperfect men to write it just like the governing body claims to be used (directed) by God (holy spirit) when it writes the literature.

  Inspired, directed... whatever. The claim of "truth from God" is the same.

  How many times, then, has the bible needed to be updated, changed, flip-flopped or adjusted due to new light?

  According to the scriptures, when God uses men to write something, He sees to it they get it right the first time.
  

  
  

  
  

  Welcome to the forum, SINCERELYMINE. Looking forward to your participation.
  
  
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  Have you got a cow that you could sell ?

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you got a cow that you could sell for the gb they really really need the money

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  Farm animals for salvation is not unheard of in JW land. This story from the 2011 Yearbook, p.117 (Papua New Guinea)

  ▪ WHILE staying with a friend, I saw a copy of the book The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life. I read a few chapters and asked him if I could have it. “Give me a chicken, and it’s yours,” he replied. The exchange was made, and I took the book home and read it carefully. Before long, I was telling others about the wonderful things I had learned...
  

  
  
  
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  Hello, I'm new here too!

  by redpilltwice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everybody, 1st post here.

  20 years jw, elder for 6 years, regular pioneer for 3 years, have always been following the 2012 candace conti abuse case with much interest, especially since the case suddenly disappeared from www.watchtower.com's news section (thanks brother j. r. brown, office of public information, because it led me to "worldly" websites for more info), leading to more and more dissatisfaction , leading to jwfacts, jwsurvey, ad1914, wtdocuments etc., leading to my awakening about 4 months ago, now fading faster and faster to zero meetings and zero field service...and you know what?

  it feels good!.

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  Zoos

  SOoo, Watchtower's desire to withhold information on their website is what caused them to lose yet another.... That probably didn't work out the way they envisioned.

  Welcome to the forum.
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  Umbertoecho here.

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.

  helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.

  i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.

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  HOW ARE YOU RIGHT NOW, Umber? Are you settled? Healthy? Stable? You've been through a lot. Are you okay?

  
  

  ... and thank you, for what you did.
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  The story of my exit

  by mrsObfuscate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.

  i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .

  my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.

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  Zoos

  Just want to add my welcome to the choir. Glad you found your way out and your life is on course for the better as you search for your own truth.
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  Years ago son raised a few years as a JW. Now struggles with depression

  by Check_Your_Premises in

  1. social
  2. family

  background:.

  i spent some time here awhile back as an unbelieving mate of a jw wife.

  i learned a lot, and was able to be supportive and understanding when she decided to leave the jw.. unfortunately, my son seems to have internalized many of the jw teachings.

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  Have him read Crisis of Conscience so he can see how a former governing body member dealt with the same issues he's dealing with.
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  No One Ever Thanks Police ??

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so, this week's sm has extracts from the yearbook.. the [police] chief turned to his assistant and said, in all my 32years of serving on the force, i have never heard anyonethank us for our work!.

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  in our area, people thank the police daily, never mind in 32 years..

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  32 years of helping people and not one person said thank you?

  Think it through.
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  Waking up with unsung songs...

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...trying hard not to forget them .

  ...not knowing how to write them down because i don't know musical notes .... ...postponing recording them .

  ...ending up forgetting them.

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  ...not knowing how to write them down because I don't know musical notes ...

  
  

  Learning the basics of music theory is not difficult. Go to your local music (not record) store and ask the clerk to select a beginners book for you. You can learn the notes easily and then write down, if nothing else, just the melody. The accompaniment can come later.
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  Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!

  by the girl next door in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now what is your stance?

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  Watchtower purchases CoC for undisclosed amount! Now what is your stance?

  I would announce on every social media outlet I could get my computer on that I possess a PDF of Ray's book (which I do), that I am willing to dispense it free of charge (which I am) and that they should send me a private message to discuss it (which they should).

  .... if the Watchtower purchased the copyright for CoC.
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  Going to see Star Wars:The Force Awakens - What are you seeing?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is not an attempt to 'straightjacket' anyone into a fixed interpretative perspective.

  so set your mind free and see satan and his demons if you reallynwant to adopt a possible jw perspective.

  or, just sit back and watch the show and the trick affects if you want.. or like the uk guardian you could see the movie in terms of dysfunction (personal and family).. quote: the original movies were always based on the most extraordinary nexus of personal and family dysfunction: a motor of guilt, shame and conflict.

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