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  The Governing Body sends dissenters 'into the corn field'.

  by Esse quam videri in

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  Zoos

  I think you captured the situation pretty well.
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  How wonderful is JW.ORG

  by Sabin in

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  there are some who still love the organization & the people in it.. who understand that every large organization has their own issues.. they believe the advice on what type of person you are supposed to be & how to treat others has made them a better person.

  and they believe, quite frankly, even if the g.b are a bunch of narcissistic wannabe powerful guys, the worest thing they have done is to wake up people on saturday mornings.. i`ve been awake most of the night thinking about this, wondering if this person had a point.

  then something came to my mind.

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  Q7. Should the elders ask a man who is reaching out for congregation privileges whether he has ever molested a child?
  Answer: No. It is not the duty of the elders to query an individual about whether he ever molested children.

  On the application, don't they ask potential Bethelites if they masturbate?
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  The Loyalty Question

  by choosing life in

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  how many here have been asked the loyalty question by an elder.

  i am referring to, "do you believe that jehovah is using the faithful and discreet slave class to accomplish his work?

  " or something along this line?.

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  sir82
  "I thought the judge of who is really anointed is between the person and Jehovah alone - I can't judge who is anointed & who isn't"

  
  

  My thoughts exactly.

  The governing body has stated:

  "We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know. The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones." - Question From Readers, w2011 8/15 p. 22

  
  

  If identifying anointed ones is a burden the governing body is unwilling to carry, why then would they heap such a heavy load on us?
  

  In the same QFR reference, the governing body also stated:

  A number of factors - including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance - might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling.

  "Given that I have never met any of the members of the governing body I would prefer not to comment on their spiritual qualifications, as I am unqualified to make any diagnosis."
  
  
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  Found this artist rendering,.. shows how Jesus had issues explaining the "overlapping generations"

  by notjustyet in

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  Zoos

  HILARIOUS! I can't wait to share this.
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  Pope Francis - Tax Churches That Don’t Help the Needy

  by Petraglyph in

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  2. scandals

  an interesting perspective from watchtower's nemesis:.

  pope francis calls for ending tax-exempt status of churches that dont help the needy.

  pope warns religious orders: take in refugees, or pay property taxes.

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  Zoos

  Wow! You think the Watchtower hated the harlot before...?

  Me thinks there will be an up tick in the vitriol rhetoric against the evil Catholic church in coming months. Joey Rutherford will be proud.
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  BAD NEWS: We'll be dealing with Watchtower far into the future

  by Zoos in

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  fortunately there will still be people waking up to the scam.. .

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  Zoos

  Fortunately there will still be people waking up to the scam.

  
  
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  Another Kim Davis inspired self-invented "gay issue"

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is it about some of these self proclaimed "christians" who go seeking persecution when it don't exist?.

  we've had a case locally in calgary where the initial reports sounded like the person had a legitimate claim: a bus driver didn't want to drive the bus in a gay pride parade and said he'd resign if they made him and that the local transit company was threatening him to force him to do it.. except it was all invented ... by him !.

  they already proactively told him that there was no danger that he would be asked to drive that bus in the parade (i.e.

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  kaik
  Fundamentalist Christianity is American invention and it is one the most extreme religious movement ever invented by man. This movement is extremely dangerous due desire creating Iranian style Christian theocracy...

  
  

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  Update on Royal Commission - "Child sex abuse inquiry hears 4000th testimony"

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. child-abuse

  newcastle heraldchild sex abuse inquiry hears 4000th testimonyby joanne mccarthy sept. 10, 2015, 10:30 p.mthe royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse held its 4000th private hearing in a jail in august as britain followed australias lead in tackling child sexual abuse.the royal commission heard evidence on august 19 from a prisoner who had been sexually abused as a child.in britain, the head of its newly established independent inquiry into child sexual abuse praised the remarkable response to the australian commission.in a speech to australian church leaders on thursday, royal commissioner justice peter mcclellan said he was pleased the british inquiry would closely follow successful australian arrangements.more than 1500 people were waiting for a private hearing and about 40 people a week requested a private hearing, justice mcclellan said.the royal commission has received 16,361 allegations involving 3566 institutions since it was established in november 2012 following the newcastle heralds shine the light campaign for a royal commission into historic child sexual abuse.more than 7000 allegations relate to religious institutions, with 4418 against the catholic church, and more than 3600 against government institutions.allegations against other churches are: anglican, 871; uniting church, 411; presbyterian, 123; methodist, 69; salvation army, 519; jehovahs witnesses, 137; jewish, 80; baptist, 59; seventh day adventist, 56; australian christian churches, 50; lutheran, 32; brethren, 30; mormon, 18; coptic orthodox, 4; and greek orthodox, 2.justice mcclellan said the royal commission had referred 727 matters to police to investigate with a view to prosecuting alleged offenders.in the past few weeks, the royal commission had reported to the federal government on a national redress scheme for victims of abuse.it was clear that time limits presented a considerable, and sometimes an insurmountable, burden for survivors wishing to commence civil proceedings against child sex offenders and institutions, he said.the royal commission should also mark the end of the societal norm that children should be seen but not heard, he said.when the required silence of the child was accompanied by an unquestioning belief by adults in the integrity of the carer ... the power imbalance was entrenched to the inevitable detriment of many children, justice mcclellan said.we must ensure that in the future the institution does not silence the child.

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  THE Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse held its 4000th private hearing...

  Where do these people find the strength?
  

  I remember when I was trying to decide which venue I wanted to get into for volunteer work, the idea of working at the local Shriners Hospital for Children was suggested. I rolled the idea around for awhile and then backed out because I didn't think I would be able to handle it emotionally.
  

  These people who are capable of placing themselves in the middle of a storm like this possess a strength I will never have.
  
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  Need clarification from someone who speaks JW: What is an "apostate" ...or... an "apostate website?"

  by Faithful Witness in

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  http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/27/jehovahs-witnesses-destroyed-notes-about-child-sex-abuse-inquiry-told.

  http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/27/us-australia-religion-sexcrimes-iduskcn0q10ih20150727.

  http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn.

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  DATA-DOG
  The fact of the matter is that there was an official letter in the 80's that identified "apostates", and an Dub who does not believe current dogma is an "apostate."

  
  

  Is this the letter you were referring to?

  
  

  
  
  

  
  
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  This week at the meeting elders call friend in the room.

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  ok heres latest at kh .i have a friend of mine who is df but trying to get reinstated i know you may ask why but its a free country anyway he is a frienldly chap and likes to say hello to old friends.

  he does his hellos very discreetly not makeing a scene.

  well the elders have noticed him saying hello to people at hall so they invited him in back room.

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  Zoos

  I noticed when I was trying to get reinstated... people notice you. You try to disappear into the furniture but you are seen and commented on.

  It took a long time for me to get reinstated and I often wondered what kind of effect this had on the brothers and sisters in the congregation. I KNEW one of the elders on my JC was viewed as a dick-head. I couldn't help but wonder if this had a negative effect on others who might have thought I was being treated harshly. Which I was.

  Now that it's all over and I am awake and out... I often wish I had exploited that situation better - responding to an elder's invitation to the back room with a comment within earshot of others, "So you can just tell me again that you're not going to reinstate me. No thanks! My relationship with Jehovah is fine. I'll be fine."

  OP, your friend is in a position to help others in a variety of ways by undermining the "stars" in the congregation.