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  Party in the kingdom hall!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  check it out and download before i am forced to take it down!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_rfrusa1c.

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  No need to apologize Magnum, you nailed it the first time. This is a first class mind control cult of the highest order and there is no pleasure at all in watching them embarrassingly hop around and trying to call it 'progress' in normalcy when it's not.

  When they loosen up on their inhuman draconian disfellowshipping rules, destroying families, apostate labeling, blood issue, education stance, blind obedience and veritable worship of some self titled old men that live in a luxury tower in Crooklyn and for ever lying about and whitewashing their own history then maybe.

  Until then there is no joy whatsoever to be had in this awkward and embarrassing display of pseudo freedom. This same happy clappy crowd will tear your family to shreds and condemn you to burn without a second thought and then go home and sing about it.
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  Do you "believe" differently from what you "know"?

  by compound complex in

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  greetings, all those still searching, still wondering .

  .. in one of many faith-related books i have read, i recall the author declaring that there's a difference between what we know and what we believe.

  while i cannot recall the author nor his commentary, i acknowledge that, while i do know ttatt and that the bible in not without error, yet there's a part of me deep inside that holds onto the so-called spiritual.. how is it for you personally as you make the transition from the invisible to the visible?

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  Yes Iown.. I'm with you totally there. I don't have any real idea what the truth is on anything at all any more really.. but I know for a fact the me personally being absolutely honest and truthful in everything feels good and right and ultimately pleasant in my deepest being.

  Being kind, generous and loving and compassionate with others and especially for some reason animals also satisfies something very deep in me so I will definitely hang on to these things. I don't know if 'truth' or 'rightness' can be written on the human heart but that seems to be the place where this stuff is coming from lately for me. It's kind of all I have.
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  HERE IS YOUR MAP. . . your task is to find the spot which says: YOU ARE HERE

  by Terry in

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  here is your map:.

  1. i suspect the truth isn't what i thought it was.. 2. omg--i realize i've been lied to and duped.. 3. what should i do?--i don't want to lose my wife, kids, family, friends, dog, pet hamster .

  .. 4. what if jehovah's witnesses really do have the true religion and it's simple human error screwing it up?.

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  1(b). I suspect the TRUTH isn't what I was told it was.
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  Do you "believe" differently from what you "know"?

  by compound complex in

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  greetings, all those still searching, still wondering .

  .. in one of many faith-related books i have read, i recall the author declaring that there's a difference between what we know and what we believe.

  while i cannot recall the author nor his commentary, i acknowledge that, while i do know ttatt and that the bible in not without error, yet there's a part of me deep inside that holds onto the so-called spiritual.. how is it for you personally as you make the transition from the invisible to the visible?

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  I used to believe what I thought I knew. Because of TATT I don't know what I know any more. Probably nothing. I no longer know what I even believe. I don't want to believe any more for the sake of believing or because it sounds good or feels good. There is no point in self deception. Without God himself giving me a personal revelation or experience I'd say all I have left now is hope.
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  Lost opportunity to witness to a pair of Moonies

  by jgnat in

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  housebound at the moment, recovering from surgery, two lovely asian ladies approached me in my yard saying they were graduates from the something-something institute and they were practising what they learned.

  they wanted to tell me about mother god.... that elicited a pretty fast "no thankyou" and they moved to the next door.

  i entertained the idea of giving those two girls a run for their money, but hubby said no- go.

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  Do you mean witness as in Witness?
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  Have scientists found "a new earth"???

  by Nathan Natas in

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  http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/science/story/0,12996,1293976,00.html

  earth-like planet could harbour life .

  tim radford, science editor.

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  These people are introducing data and information for mankind that will last forever.

  Not really.. their theories are as uncertain as everything else in this world.
  
  http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-famous-scientific-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-wrong.php

  and more..

  http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2010/11/the-top-10-most-spectacularly-wrong-widely-held-scientific-theories/

  Who want's to be remembered for being wrong eh?
  
  I'm not competing here.. just keeping an open mind. Science is not my new God.
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  Have scientists found "a new earth"???

  by Nathan Natas in

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  http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/science/story/0,12996,1293976,00.html

  earth-like planet could harbour life .

  tim radford, science editor.

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  Apparently not..

  Two earlier discovered Earth-like planets do not exist, new study shows.

  http://rt.com/news/170668-earth-planets-gliese-scientists/

  Great comment:

  The hubris of 'scientists' is comical. They have long since redefined and then abandoned the definition of 'science' and have plunged completely into the realm of fairy tales and speculation, needing no proof for their theories than the existence of their theories, proclaiming posit and conjecture as hard fact.
  
  These 'scientists' have become religious zealots with no proof whatsoever of their beliefs.
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  Party in the kingdom hall!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  check it out and download before i am forced to take it down!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_rfrusa1c.

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  You want people to celebrate what that shows Cofty? Sorry but it's quite sad and tragic and even more so that the people in the video can't see it themselves.

  Kids will enjoy just about anything. They are born to be joyful The Org in time will soon wash that from their little souls. I personally can not appreciate anything at all about this clip. It's quite pitiful.
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  Party in the kingdom hall!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  2. beliefs

  check it out and download before i am forced to take it down!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf_rfrusa1c.

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  Is it just me or are 99% of the females in this video overweight? Many massively. What happened to moderation in all things.. like FOOD for instance?

  From the dancing one can see that the level of fitness and general flexibility is appalling even in the young ones.
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  The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

  by Focus in

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  most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

  this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

  so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

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  This research is as fascinating as it is liberating. It helps sever one's lingering connections and remnants of respect from the Borg at root level.

  "You will indeed know the truth and the lies and they will both set you free."