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  by johnny cip in

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  so i call my dad a jw) and he said that he was watching track and field on t.v.

  so i went into the 1936 olympics and jesse owens and hitler and how the wt agt the time said that the aerian race was choosen from jehovah , but when owens won the olympics not only was hitler ptoven wrong but the wt also ,., this went on for 2 hours on the phjone with my dad , only lying to me how rutherford was choosen by a false god jehovah .

  well i whiped him on every point you name it from god's choosen people to the preaching work .

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  Jayson

  Hey John,
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Love ya buddy,
  
  
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  May 6, 2002 Printer-Friendly Version "All options are on the table," President George W. Bush said recently, "But one thing I will not allow is a nation such as Iraq to threaten our very future by developing weapons of mass destruction." On April 3, 1991, UN Security Council Resolution 687 (1991), Section C, declared that Iraq shall accept unconditionally, under international supervision, the "destruction, removal or rendering harmless" of its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and ballistic missiles with a range over 150 kilometers. On June 9, 1991, UNSCOM, the United Nations Special Commission, conducted its first chemical weapons inspection in Iraq in accordance with the approved and accepted Resolution 687. Since UN inspectors were ousted in late 1998, most intelligence analysts feel that WMD research and development has continued in Iraq. Richard Butler, UNSCOM chairman from 1992 though 1997, stresses that the full nature and scope of Saddam's current WMD programs cannot be known precisely because of the absence of inspections and monitoring. He surmises that it would be "foolish in the extreme" not to assume that Iraq is: developing a long-range missile capability; at work again on building nuclear weapons; and adding to the chemical and biological warfare weapons that were concealed during the UNSCOM inspection period. The United Nations, along with the Bush administration, has demanded that Saddam Hussein grant the UN Monitoring Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) access to sites in Iraq. UN attempts over the last four years to establish talks concerning restarting inspections with Iraq have been either delayed or postponed. On May 1, 2002, an Iraqi delegation headed by Foreign Minister Naji Sabri met with UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and Hans Blix, executive chairman of UNMOVIC, in New York to once more begin negotiations concerning the possible return of UN inspectors. U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld has repeatedly stated that he is very doubtful concerning the ability of a new UN arms inspection regime to build any confidence that Saddam Hussein is not developing nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. Despite such skepticism, it is of considerable value for the United States to get firmly behind and support all efforts to resume inspections. It is possibly the only step left between an all-out, unilateral military offensive by the United States, with the tremendous short- and long-term risks involved with such an operation. The U.S. government should move quickly to use every ounce of its political leverage, especially with Russia, to re-start the process of inspections in Iraq. True, the UNSCOM inspections in the 1990swere constantly plagued by Iraqi concealment, deception, lies and threats, but the inspectors learned a lot, found a lot and destroyed a lot. The effort was worth it in the end. Iraq is clearly seen by the Bush administration as the premier source of WMD to terrorist groups in the future. A resumption of inspections has the potential give the world a peek under the tent at what threat to global security Iraq really does pose. Inspections might also lead to containment Iraq's weapons programs, without the need for a U.S. military strike. The leadership in the United States must pull out all the stops and aggressively support the resumption of a tough, robust UN inspection regime in Iraq. Anything less could be viewed by some, both domestically and abroad, as criminally insane. Listed below is a chronology of key developments in Iraq's WMD programs, including the latest U.S. and UN concerns. Iraq has produced several thousand tons of chemical weapons over the last 20 years. Iraq had roughly 1,000 metric tons of chemical weapons on hand when it invaded Kuwait, split roughly equally between blister agents and nerve agents. March 16, 1988 — Iraqi President Saddam Hussein attacks the Iranian occupied Kurdish town of Halabja with chemical weapons killing 5,000 civilians. Iraq had a crash effort in 1990 to recover enriched fuel from nuclear reactors in an attempt to build a weapon by 1991. Coalition aircraft destroyed the facilities on Jan. 17, 1991. The UN inspection regime (UNSCOM) destroyed more than 27,000 chemical bombs, artillery shells and rockets, including 30 Scud missile warheads. About 500 tons of mustard and nerve agents and thousands of tons of precursor chemicals (choline and phosphorus pentasulfide for example) were also destroyed. Iraq admitted prior to the Gulf War that it maintained large stockpiles of mustard gas and the nerve agents Sarin (GB) and Tabun (GA). Iraq had a large VX production underway, and has not offered any evidence that the capability and stockpile have been destroyed. In 1996, Iraq admitted it had produced at least 3.9 tons of VX and at least 600 tons of ingredients to make it. (It is one of the deadliest forms of nerve gas and easily storable.) Defection of Iraqi Lt. Gen. Hussein Majid, formerly in charge of WMD programs, led Iraq to admit its bio-weapon program in August 1995. Baghdad admitted to producing 90,000 liters of Botulinium toxin, 8,300 liters of Anthrax, and significant quantities of other agents, plus a laboratory and industrial-scale facility to continue production. Defectors reported in December 2001 and March 2002 the existence of mobile germ laboratories disguised as milk delivery trucks, and a network of underground bunkers for chemical and biological weapons production. U.S. officials released evidence on March 8, 2002, allegedly showing that Iraq has been converting dump trucks bought through a UN humanitarian program into military vehicles, in violation of UN sanctions. An Iraqi defector stated that he had converted Renault trucks into mobile laboratories with incubators for bacteria, microscopes and air conditioning. Intelligence reports indicate that Iraq is also developing newer and longer range missiles, with initial ranges of 600-700 miles; far enough to hit Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Ankara in Turkey, Cairo and Alexandria in Egypt, and Tehran in Iran. During Desert Storm, Iraq launched some 45 Scud missiles: one at Bahrain, five or six at Saudi Arabia, and 39 into Israel. Development of the Al Samoud liquid-propellant missile is ongoing; Iraq also is actively developing solid-propellant engines to build a multi-stage surface-to-surface missile. Several reports indicate that Iraq is closer to a nuclear bomb than most people think. It has an efficient nuclear bomb design - with the new warhead weighing only about 1,300 pounds and 2 feet in diameter. The one thing lacking is fissile material to fuel it. Nuclear weapon specialists estimate if Saddam could buy the materials he is missing, it would only be a matter of months until Iraq created a weapon. In January 2002, U.S. intelligence sources estimated the United States could face a ballistic missile threat from Iraq by the year 2015, well before such a threat emerged from Iran or North Korea. Rumsfeld stated on April 15, 2002, that new equipment had allowed Iraq's weapon program to become more mobile, "enabling them to go underground to a greater extent than they had previously." Sources: Editorial cartoon by Jimmy Margulies, New Jersey — The Record. 2001. Richard Butler, "The Greatest Threat", Uncorrected Proof, New York, N.Y., Public Affairs 2000. Cordesman, Anthony H., U.S.Forces In The Middle East, Resources and Capabilities, Boulder, CO; Westview Press, 1997. Newsweek (Web exclusive), "Access Must Be Unrestricted," April 15, 2002. Greg Jaffe, "Skepticism Of New Weapons Search In Iraq Seems To Counter Bush Call," Wall Street Journal, April 16, 2002. Colum Lynch, "Annan Urges Iraq To Permit Arms Inspectors' Return," The Washington Post, March 8, 2002. Chris Alden, "Defector Reveals Extent Of Iraqi Weapons Program," The Guardian, April 4, 2002. Chronology of UN inspections derived from an October 1998 UNSCOM document. Howard Schneider and Walter Pincus, "Iraq And U.N. To Talk Today About Weapon Inspectors," The Washington Post, May 1, 2002. Rear Adm. (Ret.) Stephen H. Baker, USN CDI Senior Fellow [email protected] Dr. Michael Donovan CDI Research Analyst [email protected]

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  Did You Feel Bad About How YOU Treated Disfellowshipped Ones?

  by minimus in

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  being an elder, i could talk to df's ones to see how they're doing.

  the wt.

  tells the rank and file that those disfellowsipped are as "dead" in jehovah's eyes.

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  No, but I do regret not treating JW's worse.
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  Are You A Dumb Apostate?

  by minimus in

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  i thought this was a really good question!

  .........teejay, must have not thought of this one yet....and jh, try not to post a similar question right away?

  (i know you're trying to confuse the masses).

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  Min I am the worst kind of apostate. Every elders and propagandists worst nightmare. I think you have that figured out.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  "A quick recap: I say that the US government told us they knew that Iraq had WoMD and that they knew this for a fact because they knew where they were (in fact, how else could they claim to have positive proof?)
  
  Do you, or do you not agree that the proof that the US gave of Iraq having WoMD was bogus and fabricated?
  
  
  Think carefully, if you think they gave proof then explain why they cannot produce the hard evidence now. If you think they didn't ... then why did they use it as an excuse to go to war?"
  
  
  Simon I wish I would have said this a weeks ago and saved the hard feelings. You really make the case as to why so many Americans simply say your question and demands do not matter, that they are irrelevant. I'm sorry you can't understand that. Go fishing, it helps me. With your last sentence I just nodded. I agree and end it with that.
  
  
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  Do you ever just get frustrated?

  by Aztec in

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  not necessarily with anything in particular, but, with the world in general?

  watching the news is disturbing, there just seems to be so little compassion or empathy.

  most of us are so spoiled and we don't even realize it!

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  "Not necessarily with anything in particular, but, with the world in general? Watching the news is disturbing, there just seems to be so little compassion or empathy. Most of us are so spoiled and we don't even realize it! I lectured my son tonight on how spoiled he is and it didn't even occur to me that I am as well! I can sit here on the computer and chat with friends from all over the globe and there are people on this planet who haven't had a decent meal in who knows how long! This really bothers me! Bah! The inequity between the haves and have nots grows by leaps and bounds and there is little to be done to stop it. I'm just feeling a little frustrated and ineffectual. This is just my little rant for the day. ~Aztec"
  
  
  
  
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  Who reads regularly

  by Jayson in

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  how many of you read at least one newspaper every day?

  does anyone read more than one newspaper daily?

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  Crownboy thanks for the link. I have never seen "google news" but I will tune in. Jayson
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  Corrupting The Young (NOT For Sensitive Readers!)

  by SYN in

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  destroying a nation

  by lynn stuter.

  in 1919 the communist strategy for revolution was captured in dusseldorf, germany.

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  "The thing they seem to be missing is that brainwashing simply doesn't work without the compliance of the individual involved." Very good czar. And very true as an adult. Children will usually do as they are told. That is why corrupting them is so henious. But we all do it. We instill our own fears and prejudices upon the next generation. I believe the best defense against this is to teach our children how to think not what to think. Teach them that there is a right and there is a wrong. Sometimes clear as mud but it is there and we are obligated to search for it. I believe in morality but not in black and white. Big Tex you have a seed of truth in your post as well. :)
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/behindheadlines/timeline/timeline.html

  http://store.aetv.com/html/catalog/vp01.jhtml?id=43699

  http://dsc.discovery.com/anthology/spotlight/911/spotlightnow.html

  A few more links to those who might want to know more about the BIG picture of the Iraqi & Middle East issues.
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  WoMD ... so where are they?

  by Simon in

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  now, the war is over, the weapons were not used and of course have not been found.. how threatening could they be if they did not even use them when being invaded by a massive force (of the countries they hate)?!

  perhaps, as many suspect, they didn't use them because they didn't have them?.

  now we're being told that we'll have to be patient and give them time to find them.

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  Nay Pleasure l predict that one has to wait until the movie comes out.