Posts by Spudinator

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* NEW DVD _ YOUNG PEOPLE ASK: WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY LIFE *

by truthseeker in

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this is an in-depth look at the new dvd released this fall.

it is primarily designed for young jehovah?s witnesses; in fact, the whole dvd is geared towards witness youth only.. .

on the front cover there are 8 happy youths carrying school books and bags.

Spudinator

truthseeker's synopsis:

The youth is in high school, is an excellent runner, and gets side tracked from spiritual things. Though he is not yet baptized, he is working towards it, and pressure from the coach to win the tournament causes him to miss meetings. His father is an unbeliever, but his mother and grandmother are witnesses. An elder helps put his goals right, and he makes the decision to leave the team and take up regular pioneering. The story is about 45 minutes long.

Having seen this production at a recent bookstudy, I would add that the elder mentioned above was an gentleman that had survived the concentration camps in WWII Germany as a loyal JW. His story paralleled the youth's in that he had been an Olympic hopeful himself (a swimmer), but had weighed the choices and left swimming to start pioneering just before Hitler came into power. Although portrayed in an emotionally appealling manner to JW's, the elder was a study in absolutism and I almost expected to see him berating Col. Hogan or Sgt. Schultz. Instead we see his gentle tutelage guiding the youth away from his own heart's desire.

IT Support makes an observation at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/79209/1.ashx that this DVD verifies.

What is most disturbing about this DVD is that the choice presented is black or white, the world or Jehovah. It is not balanced at all. If someone has a "gift" why not use it to the glory of God? Life is not the one-size-fits-all straitjacket that the WTBTS would love for us all to believe.

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Icke loves the JWs ........................ (not)

by El blanko in

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http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index1c.html

blimey charlie, old david icke doesn't like the jws much does he

Spudinator

Berten commented:

>He is not one to talk IMHO. His diatribes make the WTBTS appear to be a bastion of sanity by comparison.

Oh Really? Why don't you rejoin them then ?

Hello Berten,

In point of fact I am already a JW. I was attempting (poorly, evidently) to point out that Mr. Icke is at best a deluded and perhaps even crazy fellow. Oops! It is time for me to shape-shift back into my true reptilian form....

-Spud-

of the sinister Russell bloodline

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New book by Jim Penton, and revised book by Carl Jonsson.

by cyberguy in

jim penton?s new book is out, "jehovah's witnesses and the third reich: sectarian politics under persecution.".

see amazon-- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0802086780/qid=1099371922/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-3179410-1163212?v=glance&s=books&n=507846.

also, there?s an updated version of "the gentile times reconsidered: chronology & christ's return," coming out shortly (as indicated from an email i?ve gotten from carl jonsson).

Spudinator

Old Hippy, that was beautifully expressed. While having a lot of respect for the works of M. James Penton, your point is well taken. Of all things in JW history, these individuals stand out as a shining beacon of hope against tyranny. Thank you Old Hippy. Your fellow doubting brother, -Spud

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Icke loves the JWs ........................ (not)

by El blanko in

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http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index1c.html

blimey charlie, old david icke doesn't like the jws much does he

Spudinator

He is not one to talk IMHO. His diatribes make the WTBTS appear to be a bastion of sanity by comparison.

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The Report, volume 1

by VM44 in

i have heard about this book, "the report, volume 1" written about the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.. it was written by someone named "twmc" .

to carry jehovah's name they hold a large responsibilty...but then again the sacred .

review title: jehovah's witnesses as modern-day israel.

Spudinator

AlanF is right. One of the writers of "The Report" used to post at the old Hourglass Outpost site years ago, and there was at least one of his followers that did also. I have skimmed through this book and found it amazingly similar in style and content to the present day e-watchman.

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Dr. Phil wants to talk CULTS

by ChakkaConned in

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dr. phil is looking to talk to people who feel a family member may be involved with a cult.

check it out if you'd like on his website (drphil.com) under "be on the show".

chakka

Spudinator

I know tons of witnesses that listen to Dr. Phil like he was "the" expert on human relations. So if his show has a segment dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses you can bet that many will be tuned in to watch.

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Pastor Russell and the Colored Friends

by Kenneson in

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keeping in mind that charles taze russell began publishing the watch tower in 1879, it is interesting to note that as early as may, 1882 (zion's watch tower), copies had made their way down to caledonia, mississippi where an unnamed colored congregational minister had also recently read "food" and "tabernacle.

" he wrote to russell begging for a copy of the emphatic diaglott since he couldn't afford it.

in the june issue russell replies: "the colored minister who desired a diaglott has been supplied.

Spudinator

Thank you Kenneson for your great series dealing with Pastor Russell. I enjoy reading them all. Keep up the good work.

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New System, is it real?

by phil78 in

i read a thread recently asking was anyone upset about loosing the new system - or words to that effect.

i shooda asked then, but whats that all about?.

isn't the teaching correct?

Spudinator

No one said that the New System isn't real, at least that is not what I implied in my thread at New System or Next World. What is being discussed is a possible change in terminology from New System to Next World. In the context in which Next World was used in the public talks, it referred to the same thing as New System.

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Next World instead of New System

by Spudinator in

heard at a recent circuit assembly: .

repeatedly mentioned the "next world" instead of the "new world" or "new order.

" he used the term once talking about a brother that was awaiting intensive surgery to correct a life threatening condition.

Spudinator

Mark,
I had similar thoughts. It could signify a change from "urgency" of the imminent "New System" or "New World" in JW thought-ology to the more staid "Next World" that is commonly spoken of in the world at large. That would go against the breathless pace that heretofore has been the norm for the WTBTS. So this scenario is more than probably wrong.

But, since this came from a District Overseer, it probably means more than his own private speculation. But what? Any other thoughts?

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Next World instead of New System

by Spudinator in

heard at a recent circuit assembly: .

repeatedly mentioned the "next world" instead of the "new world" or "new order.

" he used the term once talking about a brother that was awaiting intensive surgery to correct a life threatening condition.

Spudinator

Guess I am showing my age. You are correct, of course, "New System" is more currently used. My question is, why the change now? Is it because a lot of JW folks are visibly dying off and the "New System" has to be pushed into the background by switching to "Next World?"