Praise to our Father in heaven and thank you sister Aguest in your deep insight of my error and may our Lord JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH the Son Of Jehoveh forever bless you with understanding and love. Peace.
Posts by noko
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
Noko, AGuest stated in this Thread that Jesus was created by the Father in the "womb of the Woman" in Heaven. Then you posted a statement that said Jesus was the "womb of the Woman" in Heaven. Therefore, if both statements are true, that means Jesus was created inside of Jesus, which makes no sense at all.
In short both statements are true, you asked earlier if scripture indicated Jesus was born. Yes he was is the answer, first in the womb of heaven and then subsequently (much later) again in the flesh in the womb of Mary. Creation itself was born through Jesus as testified by the Holy Spirit as recorded in the Bible. Now was Jesus the Womb of the Woman in Heaven for all creation- - Yes, God the father gave birth to all creation through Jesus. Now I ask you a question, "What significance or what does it show when Mary was with child (Jesus) in her womb without having relations with a man nor married?" I think you answered your own question about scriptures etc.. Jesus will judge us from the heart if you misused or not the sayings of the Holy Spirit, you did accused Aguest of Blasphemy. I am glad you feel it was out of love if so then that is fine. I have to go now.
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
UDF wrote:
Well, that's interesting, because AGuest claims that Jesus was "born" inside the womb of the Woman, so if Jesus is the womb of the Woman, then how was Jesus born inside of Himself?
Are you Nuts? Have you not heard of the Virgin Mary, then again does that not represent the womb of the Woman in heaven? Who created Jesus in the Womb of Mary? You got it God the Father as in God Almighty. Who created God's Son in the womb of Women (Heaven) you got it, God the Father God Almighty. Now all creation got created through whom? Through the womb of the Women or Jesus Christ. Adam created or had children through Eve, womb of the Women. What Jehavoh shows and does, the Son does likewise, which like Jesus's Father will make him like his Father, an Eternal Father. To be a Father you must have children, which means a marriage must occur, Jesus will marry the bride (the annointed). And what do you think the bride will have when married to Jesus? How about Children?
UDF wrote:
Noko said:
Eve came after Adam but of the same flesh in the garden of Eden or you can say "In the Ark" where all life began. Jehovah and Jesus "IN THE SPIRIT REALM..." the Most Holy place where the high priest (Jesus Christ) can enter stems all creation perfectly exemplified by the example God gives us in the Garden of Eden. Eve was an image of Adam as Jesus is an image of God. Remember this is only an image that reveals the truth.
Correction: Jesus does not just reveal the truth, Jesus IS THE TRUTH!Do you think all the parables that Jesus told actually happened or did they reveal the truth? YES JESUS IS THE TRUTH, words, images and parables reveal and MOST IMPORTANTly the HOLY SPIRIT reveals the truth.
Your reasoning and misuse of scriptures to attack Aguest is not out of love and directly attacking the Holy Spirit which you claim to go by. Please be careful and let the Holy Spirit explain the meaning, context of the many scriptures you misuse. True praise and Worship goes to our Father in heaven through his Son Jesus Christ may we all come to the truth and drink life's water freely.
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
Who is your Father?
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
Except an egg wasn't used as an image of God .
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
Aguest wrote:
"In the beginning", which means... "In the Ark"... which means "In the womb of the Woman"... which means "IN THE SPIRIT REALM..."
Aguest wrote the truth from the Holy Spirit as I bare witness:
Gen 1:27
God created man in the image of himself, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them.
Man does not give birth to anything except through the women or through the womb. God gives birth "in the womb of the Woman" which is Jesus. Eve came after Adam but of the same flesh in the garden of Eden or you can say "In the Ark" where all life began. Jehovah and Jesus "IN THE SPIRIT REALM..." the Most Holy place where the high priest (Jesus Christ) can enter stems all creation perfectly exemplified by the example God gives us in the Garden of Eden. Eve was an image of Adam as Jesus is an image of God. Remember this is only an image that reveals the truth.
What Aguest wrote further is also the truth as given to him by the Son of the MOST HOLY (Jehovah) revealed to him by the name JAHESHUAH MISCHAJAH.
Peace and Love to all followers of our Lord Jesus Christ (JAHESHUAH MISCHAJAH) the Son of God who are join together in the worship of the Father.
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
UD,
Please be aware that the Masoretic Tex,t which the oldest complete copy known is the Leningrad Codex, which was copied in 1008CE and the Codex Sinaiticus (Septuagint) is from 400CE does differ in PS 102:25. The oldest text know for PS102:25 is from the Dead Sea scrolls dating from mid 2nd century BCE to 50-68CE, you could say more reflective of the writtings that Jesus in the flesh and his apostles used. This is from the Dead Sea Scrolls Bible:
PS:102:24,25
24 "O my God. Do not take me away in the midst of my days--you whose years endure throughout all generations!" 25 Long ago the earth was founded, and the heavens are the works of your hands.
The MT and Dead Sea Scrolls agree.
Someone could argue that the Septuagint later was altered which affected our current translations of the greek writtings we use today reflecting the altered greek Septuagint text. In any case if Jesus is Yahweh you would be denying that Yahweh has a Son since you are talking about the same person, yet there are many Sons of Yahweh who just like you and me are separate individuals, maybe united in many ways but are individuals. Father and Son relationship is very clear in the Bible we have today, Yahweh is not a God of confusion, Jesus is the Son of Yahweh just like you are a son from your father. Jesus does represent his Father fully, so by obeying Jesus, worshipping Jesus, listening to Jesus is indeed doing the same with his Father. Even today we have many examples of this principle where the son represents the father in legal matters, orders, judgements in many different types of businesses. Still the Father and the Son are not the same individual, to say so means the Father is not a Father and the Son is not a Son but only one individual. Any doctrine that denies the Son and the Father is false.
No need for challenges, the Holy Spirit can teach you all things, that is what we have to pray for and to listen to. The living word is alive, loud and clear, the Bible clearly points us to listen to the Holy Spirit.
Now "God said, 'Let us make man in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild animals and all the creatures that creep along the gound.'" ". . . male and female he created them."
May you find favor and be blessed from our saviour Jesus Christ (Mighty God) and from his Father Yehweh God Almighty.
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
Get right down to it, Jesus has a God, one he worships, one he always obeys and follows, who is greater then he is. Those who truely believe the Lamb of God would also listen to what he has said over and over again about himself and his father.
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
The Father does not call Jesus Yahweh, how about double checking that one. Yahweh does call Jesus God but also says he is God to Jesus ". . . therefore God (Jesus), your God (Yahweh) has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy." Heb 1:9 NIV. The trinity doctrine is false, those who are fooled by it are plague with darkness about the true meaning of scriptures, it denies the Father and the Son in short.
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John 1:1 - A "Sacred Secret" Revealed
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
i had opportunity yesterday, to peruse the thread entitled, "john 1:1 - good information" and there were some very... ummmm... "intriguing" responses.
some were very close to what is true; others, pure speculation.
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noko
To answer my question directly "Now which God is referred to in chapter 1 of Genesis?"
The answer is both, God the Father and God the Son.
Now what does this mean "God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." ?
Two separate individuals but joined together in one flesh, separate personalities but yet united. There is only two by the way in this relationship.
Who created a computer? Man did is my answer on his own free will. Who created the materials, principles and rules so that this could happen? I think you know the answer to that.