My first thoughts is the "blind leading the blind". Now why is human psychology prone to such behavior? I remember as a kid making stuff up to create a world that I could understand, a sense of control giving a sense of safety. Yet as a child I knew that overall my fantasy was just fantasy, maybe neat if real but it wasn't the truth. That story does hint at a deep level want or need for people to make sense and to basically worship something, no mater how strange. I will consider this more and thanks for showing us this window into how we can fall into a trap.
Posts by noko
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7When Prophecy Fails - Part 2
by refiners fire inconcluding festingers observations of prophetic disappointment with a flying saucer cult in 1956.
the major period of expectation spanned 4 days, from 17th december when the faithful expected to be airlifted from the back garden to safety by flying saucers thru 21st december when the city and surrounding countryside would be inundated with floodwaters with total devastation the result.
the saucers were predicted to arrive at 4pm on the 17th..nothing happened:
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Is it Scientificly possible for God to hear my prayers??????
by JC inhow do we explain the trillion sets of instruction that make up our dna???????.
how the dickens did all that information get there??.
its things like this that goes around in my head very often!!........
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It has been shown (as in what I've have read) that two particles such as a positron and a electron which can form from a gamma interaction with an atom, no matter how far apart from each other, if one is destroyed the other particle is also destroyed at the same time even if miles or even light years apart.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ was ever created.
Col 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. (Firstborn means a beginning or was created.)
* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is not God Almighty.
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. (Jesus Christ shall be, future tense, not complete at time of writting, a Mighty God, that is less then Almighty the highest one can be.)
* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ should not be worshiped as God.
But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.
* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel.
I havn't found it either, but then I wasn't looking to hard . Enough of that, lets move on.
The Father, The Son, and The Spirit created all things.
Did the Father, The Son, and The Spirit create Evil, the Lie and Death? In other words is Jah the Father of the lie? Myself I would say no way. Now some Bibles do indeed say at Isa 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Now did the Father, The Son, and The Spirit create the Model T UnDisfellowshipped? or did Henry Ford? Then again if the Father, The Son, and The Sprirt created all things then any wrong must be their fault, right? Isn't that what you are saying even though you will deny it?
Oh, UnDisfellowshipped who is the us in this statement found in Ge 1:26 God said, "Let us make man in our image, . . ."
Well I have to go, sorry if I didn't answer any more questions, the one who truely answer questions is Christ.
Thanks AGuest for clarifying many things through our Lord JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH the Firstborn Son of Jah.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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LOL. . .
I expected some verbage but the whole Bible! (exagerating). Sorry for those who cut and pasted or wrote all of that. Please don't waste your time in the future, with me that is. When verses are randomly, well should I say out of context, I can handle a few but hundreds I cannot. In other words if you want to discuss one principle or idea with me or relate an idea I will respond. If I see a deluge of scriptures I will not tie myself to them and cause a debate, instead I rather open up my Bible and read. Does make one feel like I ignited a spark or something. Plus exactly what Hamas said about the contradictory at times interpretations the many different renderings have does lead to allot of confusion and obvious mis-understandings. But to use them in that order to convict or judge or to possibly justify oneself standing seems. . . . well anyways where was I. . .
Oh yes,
1Co 3:9 For we are God`s fellow workers. You are God`s farming, God`s building.
Now who are God's fellow workers? Who else helps God? How about Angels?
Once again, Let the waters here be gathered together to one place, and let the dry land appear. Hoover dam was then built with the land below dry while the waters formed behind it, behold, it was very good. Peace and love to all.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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For He spoke and it was done; He commanded and it stood fast.
Did not Henry Ford do the same there DJ? (In a very limited way that is, now don't get smart )
He commanded and they were created.
Sounds like old Henry again to me of course in a much smaller scale, that is if you consider millions of model T's small.
He spoke and it was done, he commanded it and it stood fast. Who?
That also could be said of you know who, anyways I am not trying to be smart but only to show something. Peace be with you.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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Your Welcome Aguest but all thanks does indeed goes to our Father and our Lord who is Jehovah and Jaheshua Mischajah to be clear to the others here. The second version's is all from the World English Bible for those who are interested, not sure of the first version's which I copied from the previous poster. Anyways it is always a real Joy seeing you here AGuest and I hope you have the same joy as I have in Christ, which I am sure you do. Peace and Love to you forever.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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noko
Praise Jah!! Amen.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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noko
Yes,
This is a perfect example, one Bible says:
John 1:3:All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.
Yet another Bible says:
John 1:3: All things were made through him. Without him was not anything made that has been made.
One way it was made by him and the other through him???? Which is which??
Then again one Bible:
ssians 1:16: For by Him were all things created, that are in Heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him:
The other says:
Colossians 1:16 For in him were all things created, in the heavens and on the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and to him.
Hey man get your facts straight you might say, hmmmmm. No not again!!
Colossians 1:17 And He is before all things, and by Him all things consist.Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things are held together.
Now I can say Henry Ford created all Model T's, he was the creator for such a thing, the master designer but did he build them all?
Not at all, they where built through many workers. Now old Henry probably said let the fenders be so and let the roof for those with a roof be so and it was so. The workers followed and obeyed exactly what old Henry said and the model T was built and it was very good design lasting a couple of decades with very little needed to make it better.
Now that doesn't take care of this apparent confusion of those two Bibles does it? Now who is the master teacher? Who do you go to? Who do you want to teach you? Who do you listen to? Let it be Christ, the Son Of God, through the Holy Spirit, he will teach you all things you need and is the truth. That is the true source of wisdom and discernment. All you have to do is ask and open up your hearts to our Lord. Any errors in interpretations will become apparent and clarified better then spring water. Peace and love to all those who are in Christ.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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noko
LOL. . .
I think you knew it was coming didn't you?
Joh 17:21 that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us: that the world may believe that thou didst send me. With much love, David.
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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace.
last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?
this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.
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noko
Yes DJ, there is Oneness with the Father and Son just as Oneness that you and I can have with the Father and Son as well as thousands of others.