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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Ac 5:29	But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men.
Ac 5:30	The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a tree.
Ac 5:31	God exalted him with his right hand to be a Prince and a Savior, to give repentance to Israel, and remission of sins.
Ac 5:32	We are His witnesses of these things; and so also is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."

Jesus was killed and died and was raised up by Jehovah (Jesus did not always exist), Jehovah exalted him to be a Prince and a Savior (If Jesus was the Almighty then there would be no need to be exalted but he had to be exalted by the Almighty to take this station). Jahovah chooses who he wants to represent him for our salvation. Jahovah has made many to be Saviors, in that they represented the true Savior Jahovah just as Jesus represents Jahovah his Father today. Today the Holy Spirit is what witnesses these things, it is the Holy Spirit that we must listen to if we want to know Jesus Christ and hear the truth.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Well of course I wasn't saying I was the master of the universe, it is to show that Alpha and Omega is a statement or condition not a name of an individual. There is one Alimighty UDF and in the Bible it is clearly identified with one God, Jehovah. Jesus Christ is his son UDF, a Mighty God. The Bible states there are many Gods UDF, from false to the Almighty.

Now you say the Son has always existed??? Now what is the purpose of Jesus dying for our sins if he really never died? Jesus did in fact died UDF and so did not always exist. In addition Jesus was born UDF unless you truely disbelieve the Bible account. To say Jesus always existed is to take Jesus off the cross and to take away our salvation from redemption. Is that what you are saying?

The trinity doctrine is a contradiction, a lie and is not truely reflected in the Bible. Jesus has a Father, the Father has a son, this is what the Bible says, not that the Father and Son form one God with the Holy Spirit, at best that is man's invention.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

So, there is absolutely no way that you can prove that by Jesus being called "Mighty God" that He is NOT Almighty.

Just by Jesus saying he has a Father proves it UDF. Do you understand the meaning of Father?

UDF, show me a verse that says Jesus Christ is Almighty. The verses you posed does not, some is referring to Jehovah and others are not, you are seeing what you want to see UDF and not what is being said.

Alpha and Omega also means ONLY, as in I am the only one in my household who was in the Navy ever. I am the ONLY one who has the name of David in my household. UDF give me a break about this blasphene junk you keep coming up with. Because I say I am the Alpha and Omega in my house or First and Last in my household who was in the Navy is actually kinda funny. Get some reality with your arguments. I have to go, ranned out of time, not all of your many questions will I answer, SORRY.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Hi UDF,

and greetings.

Firstborn

Hebrew
B@kowr (bek-ore'); Noun Masculine, Strong #: 1060
firstborn, firstling
of men and women
of animals
noun of relation (fig.)
Greek
Prototokos (pro-tot-ok'-os);
Word Origin: Greek, Adjective, Strong #: 4416 the firstborn
of man or beast
of Christ, the first born of all creation
In any case UDF, Christ was born, had a beginning but is eternal. Now Christ or should I say the firstborn and only begotten son of Jah was not eternal, in that he gave up his spirit life to become death for us in the flesh to pay back the debt of sin brought about by our orginal father Adam. He paid back what was taken away by Satan from Jehovah. It is when Jah resurrected our Saviour is when he became the Firstborn of the new creation and also the Firstborn from the dead who will not die. Our Saviour had three births, first as a spirit (Jah as Father in the womb of Heaven) in which he died to come to us in the flesh (King David seed as his father and Mary his mother), which was his second birth and finally when Jah resurrected him from the dead (Born again from Jah), firstborn of the new creation, his third birth. In any case you have to admit his birth in flesh and then his subsequent birth from the dead, both where beginnings UDF.

Now getting back to the mighty almighty thingy. LOL .

UDF, you did forget one where mighty God is mentioned in the KJV that is, other translations have it in less:

1sa 4:8 Woe unto us! who shall deliver us out of the hand of these mighty Gods? these are the Gods that smote the Egyptians with all the plagues in the wilderness.

Now UDF who are these mighty Gods??? Yes more then one God and mighty UDF. Are they also Jehovah or Jesus Christ?

This takes us to Ps 50.1 There is alot of variation with the rendering of the first verse as you can see and read here:

The God of gods, even the Lord, has sent out his voice, and the earth is full of fear; from the coming up of the sun to its going down.
In any case the word rendered mighty for KJV in Hebrew is different in Isa 9:6 and Ps 50.1. Now Ps 50:1 uses the word 'el (ale), while ISA 9:6 uses Gibbowr (ghib-bore'); These two words do mean different things and the rendering above of Ps 50:1 seems to be correct while the other Bibles render it incorrectly or at least differently.

Now only Jehovah is ever rendered Almighty while there are cases where he is given the Mighty God title in the Bible. Now you say:

Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is not God Almighty.

You could also rephrase that to read:

Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is God Almighty. If so UDF, show us. The highest that Jesus Christ is rendered in the Bible is a Mighty God while Jehovah is referred to being Almighty numerous times.

The Alpha and Omega. I am the Alpha and Omega in my family to be called David (my name), I am the Alpha and Omega in my family to have been in the Navy as well. Alpha and Omega means first and last, first letter of Greek alphabit and last. Now only in Revelation is this saying used both by Jahovah and his Son, in any case just because I or anyone else can use this expression doesn't mean I am Jahovah or Jesus nor anyone else who uses it, does it? Now Jahovah is the first and last Almighty Re 1:8. Jesus Christ is the First and Last Saviour for us where we can receive the water of life Re 21:6 and through him the New Creation will be built Re 22:13. The old creation has a short period of time left, death will be no more afterwards.

Now about worship I may cover later, I've said enough and for those who are truely thirsty reach for the true drink, the everlasting drink which is given by our Lord, The Son Of Jahovah, Jesus Christ who has been revealed to his slave as JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH.

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When Prophecy Fails - Part 2

by refiners fire in

concluding festingers observations of prophetic disappointment with a flying saucer cult in 1956.

the major period of expectation spanned 4 days, from 17th december when the faithful expected to be airlifted from the back garden to safety by flying saucers thru 21st december when the city and surrounding countryside would be inundated with floodwaters with total devastation the result.

the saucers were predicted to arrive at 4pm on the 17th..nothing happened:

noko

My first thoughts is the "blind leading the blind". Now why is human psychology prone to such behavior? I remember as a kid making stuff up to create a world that I could understand, a sense of control giving a sense of safety. Yet as a child I knew that overall my fantasy was just fantasy, maybe neat if real but it wasn't the truth. That story does hint at a deep level want or need for people to make sense and to basically worship something, no mater how strange. I will consider this more and thanks for showing us this window into how we can fall into a trap.

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Is it Scientificly possible for God to hear my prayers??????

by JC in

how do we explain the trillion sets of instruction that make up our dna???????.

how the dickens did all that information get there??.

its things like this that goes around in my head very often!!........

noko

It has been shown (as in what I've have read) that two particles such as a positron and a electron which can form from a gamma interaction with an atom, no matter how far apart from each other, if one is destroyed the other particle is also destroyed at the same time even if miles or even light years apart.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ was ever created.

Col 1:15 who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. (Firstborn means a beginning or was created.)

* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is not God Almighty.

Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. (Jesus Christ shall be, future tense, not complete at time of writting, a Mighty God, that is less then Almighty the highest one can be.)

* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ should not be worshiped as God.

But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers.

* Not one Verse in the entire Bible says that Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel.

I havn't found it either, but then I wasn't looking to hard . Enough of that, lets move on.

The Father, The Son, and The Spirit created all things.

Did the Father, The Son, and The Spirit create Evil, the Lie and Death? In other words is Jah the Father of the lie? Myself I would say no way. Now some Bibles do indeed say at Isa 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Now did the Father, The Son, and The Spirit create the Model T UnDisfellowshipped? or did Henry Ford? Then again if the Father, The Son, and The Sprirt created all things then any wrong must be their fault, right? Isn't that what you are saying even though you will deny it?

Oh, UnDisfellowshipped who is the us in this statement found in Ge 1:26 God said, "Let us make man in our image, . . ."

Well I have to go, sorry if I didn't answer any more questions, the one who truely answer questions is Christ.

Thanks AGuest for clarifying many things through our Lord JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH the Firstborn Son of Jah.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

LOL. . .

I expected some verbage but the whole Bible! (exagerating). Sorry for those who cut and pasted or wrote all of that. Please don't waste your time in the future, with me that is. When verses are randomly, well should I say out of context, I can handle a few but hundreds I cannot. In other words if you want to discuss one principle or idea with me or relate an idea I will respond. If I see a deluge of scriptures I will not tie myself to them and cause a debate, instead I rather open up my Bible and read. Does make one feel like I ignited a spark or something. Plus exactly what Hamas said about the contradictory at times interpretations the many different renderings have does lead to allot of confusion and obvious mis-understandings. But to use them in that order to convict or judge or to possibly justify oneself standing seems. . . . well anyways where was I. . .

Oh yes,

1Co 3:9 For we are God`s fellow workers. You are God`s farming, God`s building.

Now who are God's fellow workers? Who else helps God? How about Angels?

Once again, Let the waters here be gathered together to one place, and let the dry land appear. Hoover dam was then built with the land below dry while the waters formed behind it, behold, it was very good. Peace and love to all.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

For He spoke and it was done; He commanded and it stood fast.

Did not Henry Ford do the same there DJ? (In a very limited way that is, now don't get smart )

He commanded and they were created.

Sounds like old Henry again to me of course in a much smaller scale, that is if you consider millions of model T's small.

He spoke and it was done, he commanded it and it stood fast. Who?

That also could be said of you know who, anyways I am not trying to be smart but only to show something. Peace be with you.

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The Holy Spirit... and DOES God Speak to Us?

by AGuest in

may you all have peace.

last night when i went to bed, my heart was quite heavy: there were things on it, in it, thereon... whatever... that i could not reconcile: i know what i have heard from my lord - how do i get others who love him to grasp that such a thing is possible, to understand that they do not have to take my word for it, but can ask him, for i am nothing more than a good-for-nothing-slave... and have "sold" myself into the "service" of the one who "bought" me... so that it is his will that i must obey... whether earthling man hears... or refrain?

this is not new "fight" with me, let me tell you: i know exactly how jeremiah felt, for i cannot count the times my heart has felt the same thing.

noko

Your Welcome Aguest but all thanks does indeed goes to our Father and our Lord who is Jehovah and Jaheshua Mischajah to be clear to the others here. The second version's is all from the World English Bible for those who are interested, not sure of the first version's which I copied from the previous poster. Anyways it is always a real Joy seeing you here AGuest and I hope you have the same joy as I have in Christ, which I am sure you do. Peace and Love to you forever.