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  Is Atheism a Form of Blind Faith?

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  if god is outside of nature and therefore cannot be proved or disproved by science, is atheism a form of blind faith?

  after all, it cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.. steven jay gould said;.

  "science simply cannot by its legitimate methods adjudicate the issue of god's possible superintendence of nature.

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  So why do "Atheist" define themselve by making a claim.

  Atheism, at least weak atheism, is not making any claim. It is more of a position of non belief until sufficient evidence is presented.

  It's really the way most of us behave with extraordinary claims. If someone says "I was abducted by aliens," I would choose not to believe until I was presented with sufficient evidence. Is it up to me to produce contra-evidence to his claim that he was abducted by aliens? No. It is the believer that is making the claim and it is up to him to produce evidence if he wants to convince the skeptic.
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  Is Atheism a Form of Blind Faith?

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  1. jw
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  if god is outside of nature and therefore cannot be proved or disproved by science, is atheism a form of blind faith?

  after all, it cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.. steven jay gould said;.

  "science simply cannot by its legitimate methods adjudicate the issue of god's possible superintendence of nature.

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  Thats funny. Atheists efforts to re-write the dictionary in an attempt to place themselves beyond the realm of questioning doesn't really impress anyone except other atheists and wannabes.

  Perry, this is unbelievably ridiculous. I know what I believe. Just becuase you feel the word I use to describe my belief is inaccurate doesn't mean I am wrong about how I believe, it means (at most) that it would make sense to you if I used a different word to describe my belief. It certainly does not mean that my belief must be molded to some specific definition you are pointing at in a dictionary.

  As I previously mentioned, the dictionary definition you are "schooling" us atheists with barely scratches the surface. It discusses nothing of weak and strong atheism. Educate yourself and look up those concepts, for it might make you realize that it's not so bad that we use the term "atheism" to describe our beliefs.

  Atheism is a worldview that filters information to make it fit just like any other worldview does. For some kinds of truth, unless it is revealed, it cannot be ultimately known by man, precisely because of his limitations to "know" and his ease by which he can misperceive.

  Of course. Everyone has a filter. My filter requires varying amounts of empirical evidence before I will believe, depending on how extraordinary the claim is. As you point out, perception is highly subjective and prone to error. That is exactly why anecdotal evidence is the weakest form of evidence, and is horribly insufficient at establishing whether a god exists or not.
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  Is Atheism a Form of Blind Faith?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if god is outside of nature and therefore cannot be proved or disproved by science, is atheism a form of blind faith?

  after all, it cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.. steven jay gould said;.

  "science simply cannot by its legitimate methods adjudicate the issue of god's possible superintendence of nature.

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  drwtsn32

  The dictionary is similar. I can read it for myself.

  You realize that language is living and evolves over time, right? And you only quoted from one dictionary? Not to mention topics are much deeper than the one or two sentences that may comprise a dictionary definition. That would be like me studying Christianity but limiting my knowledge on the topic to what the dictionary has to say.

  Your attempt to shoe-horn all atheists into a small box that you can easily attack impresses no one but yourself.
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  Is Atheism a Form of Blind Faith?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if god is outside of nature and therefore cannot be proved or disproved by science, is atheism a form of blind faith?

  after all, it cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.. steven jay gould said;.

  "science simply cannot by its legitimate methods adjudicate the issue of god's possible superintendence of nature.

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  You guys want to turn your back on hundreds of years of accepted word definitions and re-characterize a word simply for argumentation purposes go ahead

  You are clearly ignorant of the difference between strong/positive and weak/negative atheism.
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  Is Atheism a Form of Blind Faith?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if god is outside of nature and therefore cannot be proved or disproved by science, is atheism a form of blind faith?

  after all, it cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.. steven jay gould said;.

  "science simply cannot by its legitimate methods adjudicate the issue of god's possible superintendence of nature.

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  I have instructed atheists on this forum what it is that they believe so many times I've lost count.

  Wow. Thanks, Perry, for instructing us on what we believe. You clearly know us better than we know ourselves.
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  Is Atheism a Form of Blind Faith?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
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  if god is outside of nature and therefore cannot be proved or disproved by science, is atheism a form of blind faith?

  after all, it cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.. steven jay gould said;.

  "science simply cannot by its legitimate methods adjudicate the issue of god's possible superintendence of nature.

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  The burden of proof is ALWAYS on the one making the claim. ALWAYS.

  QFT.
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  Is Atheism a Form of Blind Faith?

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
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  if god is outside of nature and therefore cannot be proved or disproved by science, is atheism a form of blind faith?

  after all, it cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.. steven jay gould said;.

  "science simply cannot by its legitimate methods adjudicate the issue of god's possible superintendence of nature.

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  A fourth dimensional purple unicorn appeared out of nowhere and stole my car keys. I will not provide any empirical evidence to support my claim.

  If you don't accept my claim, are you doing so out of "blind faith"?
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  Swine Flu Shot -To get it -or not to get it?

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  so ,i am hearing different sides of the whole swine flu shot debate.

  should we get the shot ?

  or not?

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  Glad Jankyn chimed in with some reason.
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  FlyingHighNow Needs Our Love & Support

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  her son, jesse, is in serious condition.. my son is in surgery and may lose his hand and arm.. jesse got an infection in a cut on his finger.

  his finger and hand swelled to the size of an arm .. .

  they have to do surgery on his hand and arm.

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  FHN....wow, so sorry to hear about this. My thoughts are with you and your son.
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  Is the world getting better or worse?

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  http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/archive/2725/27250901.jpg.

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  Else, that's just what the god of this system wants you to believe.