"There are none so blind as those who will not see"
Here here. When I pointed out the UN situation to my father he response was that 'he didn't really care about it'. Lets hope the person your mother spoke to was on his way out.
Posts by Gadget
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4Nowadays Do JW's Lack Faith That The End Is Near?
by steve2 inmy mother told me about an interesting encounter she had last week with a young male jw who called on her offering her the latest magazines.
she did not know him and he appeared not to know her.
in a rare display of assertiveness, she interrupted his spiel, stating that she was just so sick and tired of the magazines going on all the time about how near the end is.
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Our Mouthy/Granny needs us.........
by morty ini just got a pm from mouthy/grace/granny and she is not feeling up to par these days..... her arthritis and diabetes is acting up..... can you please send her a special prayer or thought her way..... we all know she well worth it..... .
hope you get well real soon...... .
love morty..... i have thoughts being sent to you granny and i hope you feel better real soon......
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((((Grace))))
I hope your taking it easy and enjoying the new baby, talk to you soon.
Paulxxx
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The hypocrisy of the DF policy
by Sirona ini posted recently about a jw friend on mine getting df'd.
(she was the only jw who kept in touch with me when i left 5 years ago).. now i'm just so angry about some things that have been said by my jw family.
just this last weekend my friend hit rock bottom.
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((((Sirona))))
Please pass on my regards to your friend. On a more practical basis, is there anything we can do to help her? You said she's living in an unfurnished rented house, is there anything she needs? I recently moved in with my girlfriend who also owns her own home and so we had two sets of everything, a lot of which is in storage waiting for a car bootsale. If she can use any of it she's welcome to it. Do you still have my phone number? And I'm in Manchester this weekend for a conference so arranging to meet and drop it off wouldn't be a problem either.
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Will reading CoC automatically make me want to leave WTS?
by ljwtiamb insince i am still active (somewhat).
i have not read the book and you know what the org says about it.
will crisis of conscience surely send me into a tailspin?
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Reading CoC did not have to much effect on me, the books that really made me think were George Orwells '1984' and 'Animal Farm'.
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Kill the Kid, Now That's Justice! (WT 5/15/05 QFR)
by ezekiel3 inthis in it's entirety from the watchtower may 15, 2005, page 31. you might find the reasoning a bit hollow.
questions from readers.
why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?.
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But we must remember that if the case had been handled by human judges, the parents as well as the unborn child in the womb would have lost their lives.
Are they saying that it doesn't matter about the life of the baby because it was going to die anyway? What sort of spin would that put on the way they treat others considering most of the earths populaton is going to die any day now at armeggedon?
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New here...
by smorgle inhello everyone... this is my first post.
i stumbled upon this board a few hours ago, so i trolled for a bit and i like the discussions..
smorgle
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Gadget
Welcome to the board smorgle.
Paul
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Just had my first ever study with a JW
by jaffacake ini wanted to ask questions about the organisation, but he looked me in the eye & ignored my questions to pursue his agenda.. he listed about 15 topics for us to study, to prove only jws are based on 1st century christianity.
i got him to agree not to attack other religions, (proving them false does not prove jws true) he agreed with this but then went on to criticise other religions!
next week i'll be firmer on this point!.
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Gadget
I've been thinking about this a bit.
Your objective is to get your friend out, and as he won't have anything to do with you if your not studying then I think you need to make sure you don't rock the boat. If you go along with the bloke conducting the study and ask questions to show your thinking about it but don't rile him too much so that he thinks your making progress and its worthwhile continuing your study. Why not just use your study as a means to an end to be able to keep contact with your friend so that you can concentrate on your primary objective, if the study is cancelled you may lose everything. Just a thought.
If he's just been baptised the other week he may need your help now more than ever. Lots of jws stop having so much to do with a new one once they're baptised and can't count their time, so this might give you an opening as he sees the 'real love'.
Thanks for the pm, I'll be in touch over the weekend.
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I heard they had problems when using it to translate into Russian, it kept translating 'holy spirit' as 'pure vodka'.
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This is a SHOCKER!!!
by HadEnuf inwell my dear and trusted friends on this most esteemed forum...i would like you to meet my newest addition..."freedom frog".
he now graces my right arm and has been adopted into my family of frog tattoos.
(gizmo, on my left front leg above my ankle and flipper, another little frog above my right ankle, but to the side).
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Wen I was disfellowshipped it hurt so much, but looking back now it was the catalyst that made things work out so much better for me. I hope it doesn't cause too many problems for you, welcome to the board.
Paul