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  If Jackson, When?

  by kairos in

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  2. friends

  let's pretend jackson actually takes the stand to be potentially interrogated all week.

  when would be the soonest we could see this?.

  i'm hoping with all my might that he does and ttatt goes global....

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  From the Land that brought you Angus Stewart and NANDOS Flame-Grilled PeriPeri Chicken
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  A question the Chair (Mclellan) may want to ask G. Jackson

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mr. jackson, we have heard testimony from mr spinks and mr. obrien that women will never have leadership positions in the congregation.

  as i understand it mr. jackson, you interpret revelation 7 to mean that only 144,000 will go to heaven and that these 144,000 will rule the earth.

  i also understand that your organization teaches that women are part of this "remnant" of 144,000. can you explain why jesus christ is willing to put women in leadership over the entire earth but you are not willing to permit them to have anything to do with helping victims of pedophiles in your congregation?

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  Requested to have all the shepherding concerns in writing.

  by quincemyles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have not turned in a single field service report this year.

  i decided not to, after noticing the simple flaw in the calculation of 1914. the implications are huge, i.e the appointment of the fds is a fraud.

  i some days ago informed them of the private watchtower documents that are in my possession courtesy of the royal commission.

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  quincemyles - with Full credit to Marvin Shilmer for this info from his Blog:

  You may find that this info will give you some useful pointers - Remember you gotta keep the ball in their court - take the same approach as the WT does in its litigations etc delay/ push out till another time / have a depressive episode / "clarify info please" / and have any meeting in your home on your home turf /

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  Marvin Shilmer 9 years ago

  Judicial Committee Preparation

  Recently a friend inquired about how to best prepare for a judicial committee hearing from the prospective of the subject individual. At a minimum I recommend the following:

  When invited to the hearing (or to any “meeting” with local elders) make damn sure you question whether this is for a judicial hearing. If it is stated that this is the purpose of the “meeting” then ask:

  1. Will any documents of record be made of this meeting?
  2. Who will make/produce the documentation?
  3. Who will have access to the documents of record?
  4. Will this documentation contain information about my person, including my name and details discussed during the meeting?
  5. Will I have access to any and all documentation of this meeting? If not, why not?
  6. Will I have opportunity to object to any official documentation of the judicial hearing?
  7. Can you record the meeting with a voice or video recorder? If not, why not?
  8. Ask to have a personal advisor present during your judicial hearing. Reject any notion that sitting judiciaries (elders) will give any advice you might need during the process.
  9. Make notes of answers to these questions and have the elder(s) initial it as an authentic record of thein invitation to your judicial hearing. If they refuse this then just include this refusal in your note.

  Make these men go on record on these issues.

  If you choose to attend the judicial hearing then, at a minimum, I recommend that you bring a friend along to sit and wait for you immediately outside the hearing room, and:

  1. Do not answer any questions whatsoever, including making an opening statement.
  2. Ask for proof of any accusations made against your person.
  3. Insist that any witnesses testify in person.
  4. Reject testimony given by elders who are also serving as members of the judiciary.
  5. Keep meticulous records. Go with paper and pen in hand. Insist on writing down any questions asked, word for word. Insist on writing down any answers given, word for word. This will be time consuming and laborious. But insist on it. If you are told such documentation is disallowed then ask why, and write down what you are told. Hand this record over to your friend immediately as you leave the room as a witness to your record keeping.

  Any witnesses who testify in your behalf should likewise take meticulous notes. If elders deny this then these witnesses should demand the privilege as a constitutional right. If they continue to be denied then they should state that they are reporting the incident to the police and their attorney.

  If you are told that you are disallowed from meticulously documenting your own judicial hearing then refuse to be involved with the process and state that you are calling the police and your attorney to report a violation of your constitutional rights. Announce that your lawsuit will seek damages from the Watchtower Society, the local congregation and each elder on the judicial committee.

  Hope this also helps you.

  I told my body to come and have a Barbecue and Beer with me and actually get to know me and what I do etc before trying to "adjust" me but that I am not interested in a Tribunal. So they just left me and cut us off completely -

  Remember I know you said this is a Shepherding visit ...but play it with the same format as a JC
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  G.B. & J.W.'s Becoming Clap-Happy

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the regional convention (national!!

  ) for scotland, mark sanderson elicited 13 rounds of applause during his closing talk, (for the least little things!

  ) plus a final one for his closing prayer!

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  The Borgites have indeed become CRAP CLAPPY !

  "Hey wasup wid u?" "Oh I've got the CLAP"
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  Scottish Convention Revelation!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some circuit overseer gave a talk and made this statement - "jehovah will very soon resurrect millions of people.....".

  "soon" is so old hat now - "very soon" will become the new buzz words in j.w.-land..

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  "Like a Premature.........................." - That's really soon for some ! [Too late too late she cried ! ]
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  Riddle me this applewhite expert if what?

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  now here is my question.

  jw sisters are forbidden to read any elder book any or anything for elder eyes only yet ms appleseed who is considerd an wt expert is a practicing catholic part of babylon the great can read all this info in fact they give it to her.

  this is mind boggling.

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  possum - Ms ApfelStrudel was probably desperate for the Cash ! Having no peer reviews and Thesis is kinda thin for me.

  Her Testimony in the California case is almost 180 deg out of phase with the RC testimony where she conceded so much. WT is going to ask for a discount here!

  poopie - [I love that name] you make a good point - How can you be a 'spert if you have not been there !
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  The slave will be beaten with many strokes

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the slave that understood but did not get in line.

  god is tired of cruel unloveing behavior now time for that beating

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  Stop it ! I love it !
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  Extremely difficult situation the .Org is in

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as far as i can imagine, the .org is in a lose, lose, lose situation right now.

  if jackson shows to the rc, and policy chages, then bible interpretation was changed sans-holy spirit.

  policy change is an admission of guilt, not helpful in future civil court cases.

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  There was a post somewhere purported to be from a Bethel insider who was describing comments made at Breakfast [Moaning Worse-Ship] which seemed to suggest the nature of the spin that is taking place / will take place post this RC.

  From the local Bethel here I only garnered one snippet: " Well the Org supplied them with all the Documents they needed for the RC........"

  On other forums the Borgites are calling this an act of Satan working through the RC / A contrived arrangement to cut into the goings on of the JW's / a deliberate attempt to disprove the Bible vs secular thought etc

  The AGM this year promises to be a not-to-be-missed event.
  
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  From 1788 to 2015. How Australia has changed.

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  january 25, 1788 - .

  - the first 9 ships to carry prisoners from britain arrived at port jackson.

  nine ships carrying 759 convicts and their guards left portsmouth on may 13, 1787, and arrived at what would be the first penal colony in australia, new south wales.

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  I would move to OZ tomorrow if I could ! Most of my family are there and in NZ \

  Wont change support of my Rugger Team though ! ............despite
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  Guide to Giving Evidence at the RC on Child Abuse [Free Download]

  by AFRIKANMAN in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://royalcommission.com.au/witness-process-guide/.

  your guide to giving evidence at the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.

  thinking about giving evidence at the royal commission?

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  http://royalcommission.com.au/witness-process-guide/

  Your Guide to Giving Evidence at the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse

  Thinking about giving evidence at The Royal Commission?
  It’s hard to know what to expect.
  But it’s really not as scary as you think.