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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.
by THE GLADIATOR in
1. watchtower
2. bible
january 2014 watchtower study article.

let your kingdom comebut when?.

this generation will not pass away.
TTATTelder

Pixel,

Cutting it off at 2 generations - Creates Urgency. Doomsday groups have to have urgency to keep membership up.

Lets use 90 year lifespans and 25 year olds getting annointed. If you are 25 in 1914 and get annointed and live to be 90, that would put you dead in 1979.

If another overlapping person gets annointed in 1979 at 25, then he is now 59. Not exactly a "doomsday is tomorrow" equation, but it makes it more urgent than the end could be 180 years (90 + 90) from 1914.

Doomsday in 2094 isn't going to scare anybody into submission.
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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.
by THE GLADIATOR in
1. watchtower
2. bible
january 2014 watchtower study article.

let your kingdom comebut when?.

this generation will not pass away.
TTATTelder

They just give the flock what they want to hear. Basically this can be summed up by the following two-word thoughts:

"We Good" "They Bad" "End Soon" (said in a caveman voice lol)

Just tickle the ears. Buy a few more months/years. Yada yada.

I will say - it appears quite obvious that they are extremely sensitive and defensive over this 100 year anniversary.
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Is it VITAL that we recognize the faithful slave?
by Trevor Scott in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jw gonebad made this comment in another post:.

get a load of this audacious and brassy statement by the self-appointed fds in par 2 of todays lesson:.

it is vital that we recognize the faithful slave.
TTATTelder

I guess we are under new rules. New truth. Since THESE guys are speaking for God, then we can trust them this time. I mean, it is vital. -FW

It's the same ole same ole. They insinuate and obviously have the intention to send the messages -

We speak for God

You can't get to God except through us

but they don't specifically state it. That way they can deny it later and blame the reader/follower for jumping to conclusions or reading into their words what what "never intended".

Deceitful manipulation.

-TTATTelder
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Annual Meeting Instructions to MS / Elders
by jw07 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
have any elders or ministerial servants here recieved any specific instructions regarding the annual meeting?

as an ms all i have been told to do is to arrive early to "await further instruction due to the sensitive nature of my assignment".

ironically all i can imagine after hearing that a few times is dispensing cyanide laced kool aid to attendees.
TTATTelder

I am currently serving as an elder and I personally, as well as the other elders in my hall, haven't received any special instructions whatsoever that could clue us all in to anything.

I do know that brothers at the host kingdom halls (which I am not at) have received detailed instructions on the arrangements and so forth. If there is a release, those boxes of literature are somewhere in place and ready. The fact that there are limited host halls, limits the number of brothers that know anything to share on the forum.
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AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)
by WatchTower87 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

- new bible.

- new nwt (revision).
TTATTelder

wallsofjericho,

I'm not sure they care if thousands question the leadership at this point.

They are obviously planning on decreases in publishers with the branch closings and all the consolidation.

Maybe they are just preparing for the inevitable/intentional fallout.

I think they would prefer 1,000,000 mindless members sending them $100.00 a month ($100,000,000/mth total) than a bunch of pesky "thinkers" with all their questions.

They can always explain it away as "persecution", "refinements", or "cleansing".
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Watchtower study about "Who is the FDS" planned on annual meeting?
by Gorbatchov in
1. jw
2. friends
is the watchtower study next sunday about "who is the fds?

" planned in the same weekend as the watchtower annual meeting?.

this can't be coincidental!.
TTATTelder

This Sunday's WT study is about watching out for "bad" family members, " honoring Jehovah with our valuable things" (big surprise), limiting our "commercial interests", and keeping the kids in the "truth".

I love this line on money - " we are merely giving to Jehovah what already belongs to him"
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Is it VITAL that we recognize the faithful slave?
by Trevor Scott in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jw gonebad made this comment in another post:.

get a load of this audacious and brassy statement by the self-appointed fds in par 2 of todays lesson:.

it is vital that we recognize the faithful slave.
TTATTelder

It's backwards. It is vital that the slave be attendant on those he serves. Recognize a slave? Barely happens. -jgnat

I never thought about it like that. That's strong.

I have thought about the fact that the scripture is obviously addressing the slave not the "domestics". It is couseling/warning the slave to do a good job. It certainly isn't telling the domestics "you better get to finding the slave that has all the food so you don't starve to death" It is quite a stretch when you really look at.
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Is it VITAL that we recognize the faithful slave?
by Trevor Scott in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jw gonebad made this comment in another post:.

get a load of this audacious and brassy statement by the self-appointed fds in par 2 of todays lesson:.

it is vital that we recognize the faithful slave.
TTATTelder

Good point about the FDS not even being clear on the identity of the FDS and yet everybody's life depends on it.

Obviously just another "You better listen to us or else" statement with no basis.

To DD's point - I think it is amazing how they tell "studies" to question their preacher and not accept excuses like "you just gotta have faith" or "you shouldn't question the word of God", then later when you start asking too many questions in JW land, you get the exact same lines of bull!
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Today's WT Study (Who is the FDS - Sep 2013)
by ohnightdivine in
1. watchtower
2. bible
please share how your wt study went today...
TTATTelder

DD,
To add to your point, I really enjoyed the reference in the WT to the first century "governing body" with the lower case g and b.
This of course followed by the reference to the "Governing Body" today with the formal UPPER CASE LETTERS.
Also fun to ponder that the formal arrangement for a governing body didn't happen until the 70's, the term wasn't even used sparingly until like the 40's, and the board of directors (if that is who they say the FDS/GB was before the 70's) had little if anything to do with the creation of spritual food. Yet, it all started after 1914.
Also hate to remind them, but Russell was still alive in 1914, 1915, and the majority of 1916. So much for the dream of cutting him loose with the 1914 date.
-TTATTelder
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NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT
by clarity in
1. jw
2. friends
# 3 newbie post.

first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
TTATTelder

Clarity,
Thanks for the support! We really appreciate it.
Nice to find a safe place to vent and discuss.
-TTATTelder