About 10 years ago, we had a local-needs-of-the-circuit talk that said all social network accounts needed to be shut down. That was the "world" and "satan".
Oh how times change.
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Watchtower Society now PROMOTES using Social Media / Networks?
by FusionTheism inhave you seen this?.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/whiteboard-animations/social-network-smart/#?insight.
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Jehovah's Witnesses---From Walking Tall To Living In Shame
by minimus ini remember the days when jws were proud of their religion, they walked tall and carried their big stick, their bibles, proudly.
now, it's embarrassing for a witness to admit their faith to others.
the average witness can't explain their beliefs, as they have changed so many times.
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Yeah before there was a feeling of having things figured out. Now it's "sit down and shut up". If you ask a JW now what they believe, they better check the latest Watchtower before responding.
Maybe they should say "I'll get back with you after the next Annual Meeting." Lol
Something wrong with that picture. I mean imagine having to ask some authority what YOU believe. Can it really be called a belief if it was assigned to you by someone else?
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Mark Sanderson Background and Warwick
by TakeOffTheCrown inmark sanderson - here is some insight on his background taken from this site:.
http://e-watchman.com/congratulations-mark/.
congratulations, mark!.
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I guess these gb members are dyed-in-the-wool organization groupies. Can you imagine the lack of perspective of someone that lived their entire life saying "how high" every time the organization said "jump". And they call apostate's mentally diseased?
Frankly he doesn't look intelligent. I think we all can agree on that. He looks dopey.
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The flat earth conspiracy!
by Truthexplorer inok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.
i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.
in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.
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Slimboy got ressurrected. Did Jesus return and is already performing miracles?
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"So you are an atheist. So would you kill me if it were to your advantage?"
by OnTheWayOut ini worked a different shift.
i knew the people i worked with, but not as well as i could have.. anyway, religion comes up.
one guy mentions in front of another that i wrote a book about my religious experience.
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That was ridiculous, entertaining but ridiculous.
I am starting to think atheists have stronger morals than the bible thumpers. At least an atheist has thought his or her standards through and has real convictions. Religious people are a moving target for fear and guilt. Can't bet on those emotions being consistent.
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"Be Kind to the Fornicators in the Congregation!" -- New August Watchtower
by FusionTheism inhave you noticed the article entitled "watch your associations in these last days" in the new august 2015 study watchtower?.
unless i'm reading it wrong, or somehow misinterpreting it, it is saying that we should be kind to intentional breakers of god's laws inside and outside the congregation, including fornicators, but that we must not be close associates with them.. are they already preparing for a shift in their disfellowshipping practices?.
here are the relevant paragraphs:.
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It's crap they can spin in court. Just like the website FAQ's.
Pure PR. No substance. ........Almost deceitful when you think about it.
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A big hello and thank you
by iwasblind ini just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).
i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.
my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.
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iwasblind,
Welcome. I too am still serving. It's a sumbitch. Lol. Being fully awake and having to go through the motions is torture sometimes. I take solace in the fact that I carry an understanding and level head into the elder responsibilities. I have protected a number of folks from overzealous elders. Not that it makes that much difference.
I can't bring myself to use phrases like "the truth" or "Jehovah's people" anymore. I am quite selective in what I say in comments or parts. Actually what I hate the most now is being assigned as reader (and yes elders are used as readers in my hall). I used to enjoy public reading, but you are obligated to say exactly what is on the page. Sometimes I literally cringe.
Be thankful your wife is on board. That is worth a million bucks easy. My wife is a slow work in progress. PM me if you want to compare notes. Take care.
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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?
by TTATTelder infor some background, i am still in.
still an elder.
very much awake.
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Pete,
I see your point. I will say though, I respect the overall sentiment of Russell in that quote. Whether it was sincere or not, he acknowledged that God owns all the riches of the universe, and if an organization needs funds it means that organization is without God's backing.
Of course, I am sure there was a coupon or offer in the same journal for some subscription or books for sale by mail order (if not multiple offers), so it all boils down to how you define the terms like "petition" being used in the quote.
The point could also be made that the jw broadcast is the literature of today. It certainly is digital content straight from the horse's mouth.
I had a brief convo with the wife a few minutes ago. She asked about my demeanor lately. I told her I don't like what I'm seeing in the organization and mentioned the deceit and money focus. She listened pretty well, but rebutted along the lines of "Well God has had problems in his organization in the past" blah blah. Anyhow I don't want to say too much, but we are supposed to watch the broadcast when we get a chance. I get the feeling that she doesn't really want to watch it. Must be the CD kicking in.
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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?
by TTATTelder infor some background, i am still in.
still an elder.
very much awake.
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Thanks everybody. Your posts help a lot. I think I will watch it with her and gauge her reaction like jwfacts said. I'll try to sit on my hands as much as possible and let her take the lead down negative road. I'll keep the Russell quote in my back pocket. Also will check out "Going Clear" for future viewing with her.
I'll post here after the deed is done.
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Should I Make My Wife Watch the May Broadcast?
by TTATTelder infor some background, i am still in.
still an elder.
very much awake.
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Thanks for the good advice everybody. I would like to give individual responses but I can't right now.
I like the subtle approach mentioned and generally the outside take on things. It helps give me perspective.
Joe, to answer your question, it's borderline psychological torture if I'm honest. Not healthy. Can't do the elder thing much longer. I've planted some seeds so she knows it's coming. Just about timing and when I'm comfortable to take on the reactions and such.
Xanthippe, I thought about how some could take the title of the thread. I thought it made a catchier headline, though, if you will. I'm not that guy lol. Not by a long shot.
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