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  Happy at Bethel. Can't believe what I'm seeing.

  by Pubsinger in

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  apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.

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  It's a viral video. It's marketing in 2015. It was planned. 

  -TE
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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   I feel a mixture of cynicism and deep, deep sadness. - steve2

  I feel your pain. I have a long history of family in this thing also. What's weird to think about is actually what our grandparents joined into. It's not even close to the same religion, but people always refer to their "heritage in the truth". My original peeps weren't even called Jehovah's Witnesses. Craziness. 

  But back to the topic... the org is just doing the same ole game of moving the cheese.

  -TE
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  Is Watchtowers view & practices currently split in two? Split leadership direction?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been deeply following jw "culture" the last 2 years and i am getting the impression that the leadership is currently split in two different directions.

  on one hand you get this sense of a happy, joyful and less strict religion and on the other hand there is still this strict, harsh religion of the past.

  let me explain more.. there have been a lot of video's lately that show dancing in kingdom halls, bethel dancing to the "happy" song, jw.org downplaying their beliefs and making it sound like daisies.

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  I see at least 2 things happening at the same time:

  1) Image vs Reality / PR machine - this is for recruiting, selling the followers on reform, public image for use in the courtroom, etc.

  2) Typical abuse pattern within the org of building up to tear down. Give one helping warm-and-fuzzy Christianity then 3 helpings of mind control. It is intentionally confusing. That is part of the abuse and control. Most do not know about the game, even at the top, because they are being played by the game.

  -TE 
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  TTATTelder

  They are always saying things to keep followers hanging on 6 more months. Gotta love the secrets. "There's something behind door number 3........ but we can't open it just yet......but soooooon we will."

  -TE
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  The contempt of Anthony Morris: the face doesn't lie.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.

  i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.

  there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.

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  that cult side that comes out, like a werewolf, has been solid evidence to me this group is full blown cult, it's something you only see on the other side isn't it. -  freemindfade

  Yes totally agree. Nice to know you have had the same experience. It's a bit surreal to see now - on the other side - as you say. I had no idea before such a thing happened.

  I know I must have done the same thing. In our mind we were "defending the truth". In reality, we were brainwashed cult weirdos. Sad.

  I guess it will just have to click for the wives at some point. Hopefully it will, if we patiently erode the foundation. The cult has a huge head start on us, but we have 24/7 access. I insist on winning.

  -TE
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  The contempt of Anthony Morris: the face doesn't lie.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.

  i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.

  there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.

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   For me that sealed my mental departure from this madness, watching him speak with such distain about people who have put so much into their fantasy. 

  
  Yeah after that talk, I was complaining to my wife. She was agreeing all the way down the line until I said, "It's so obvious that God isn't using that moron", then BOOM she flipped. Cult girl came out. Eyes changed and everything. She actually mentioned the word divorce later that evening, but in a weird, passive-aggressive way. And we are a couple who have never gotten into a fight bad enough to separate for even one evening. 

  It's sick the hold they have on people. Now I know why they do background checks on people that pick the GB up from the airport and have handlers etc. They probably get death threats often. They earn them.

  -TE
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  What happened to not stumbling others?

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  The contempt of Anthony Morris: the face doesn't lie.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noticed something even long before even looking into ttatt, something about morris bothered me.

  i am personally very attuned to body language, facial expressions and general subtleties in human interaction.

  there was something about his face that really bothered me, and i will explain it.

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  TTATTelder

  Totally agree with OP. The guy is a pompous ass.

  God's representative?........Don't make me laugh.

  -TE
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  Watchtower choir

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think i've seen it all now.

  nothing surprises me.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpfzs7l_3sq.

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  ...and it's a wonder that JW old-timers and spinsters aren't hurling themselves off the roof. - sir82

  That made me laugh ....so freaking true. 

  They act like they are being understanding when they are really throwing salt in the wound with those lyrics.

  Keep 'em bare foot and pregnant!!!! That's the Watchtower Way!!!

  -TE
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  Charles Taze Russell Pyramid

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i live pretty close to the jw pyramid in pittsburgh and i have thought about going there and attaching a sign of some sort to the pyramid.

  i was thinking of using a qrcode to link to something.

  link.

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  TTATTelder

  Interesting google shot of it. I would like to see it in person one day. I think a lot would sink in just looking at that thing.

  -TE